On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 01:44:43 pm Adrian Goldman wrote:

> The coordination is indicative but not conclusive but, as I responded to the 
> original poster, I think the best approach is to use anomalous scattering.  
> You can measure just below and above the Ca edge, 

Actually, you can't.  The Ca K-edge is at 3.07Å, which is not a wavelength
amenable to macromolecular data collection.  

        cheers,

                Ethan


> and similarly with the Zn, and those maps will be _highly_ indicative of the 
> relative amounts of metal ion present.  In fact, you can deconvolute so that 
> you know the occupancy of the metals at the various sites.
> 
> Adrian
> 
> 
> On 30 Oct 2012, at 22:37, Chittaranjan Das wrote:
> 
> > Veerendra,
> > 
> > You can rule out if zinc has replaced calcium ions (although I agree with 
> > Nat and others that looking at the coordination sphere should give a big 
> > clue) by taking a few crystals, washing them a couple of times and 
> > subjecting them to ICP-MS analysis, if you have access to this technique. 
> > You can learn how many zinc, if any, have bound per one protein molecule in 
> > the dissolved crystal.
> > 
> > Best
> > Chitta
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Veerendra Kumar" <veerendra.ku...@uconn.edu>
> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:55:33 PM
> > Subject: [ccp4bb] Ca or Zn
> > 
> > Dear CCP4bb users,
> > 
> > I am working on a Ca2+ binding protein. it has 4-5 ca2+ binding sites.  I 
> > purified the protein  in presence of Ca2+ and crystallized the Ca2+ bound 
> > protein. I got crystal and solved the structure by SAD phasing at 2.1A 
> > resolution. I can see the clear density in the difference map for metals at 
> > the expected binding sites. However I had ZnCl2 in the crystallization 
> > conditions. Now i am not sure whether the observed density is for Ca or Zn 
> > or how many of them are ca or  zn? Since Ca (20 elctron) and Zn (30 
> > electron), is this value difference can be used to make a guess about 
> > different ions? 
> > is there any way we can find the electron density value at different peaks? 
> > 
> > Thank you
> > 
> > Veerendra 
> 

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Ethan A Merritt
Biomolecular Structure Center,  K-428 Health Sciences Bldg
University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742

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