Hi Shankar,

I don't claim to be an expert, but I've used ethylene glycol as a
cryoprotectant many times, and 30% (v/v) would probably be sufficient for
proper freezing without any further addition.

Did you try and shoot a crystal at room temperature?

Hth,
Dave
On Jan 2, 2013 5:59 PM, "Sankaranarayanan Srinivasan" <texs...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> A very happy new year to all.
>
> I would appreciate some expert advice on optimizing a crystallization
> condition in which the initial hits were obtained with ethylene glycol as
> the main precipitant. Here is the summary of things tried.
>
> We have a protein, size (31Kda) and the starting protein buffer is 0.1M
> Tris pH7.5, 0.1M NaCl, 10% glycerol.
> The initial crystal hit was obtained from the emerald cryo kit condition
> that has 0.1M imidazole pH 8.0 , 50% (v/v) ethylene glycol. The crystals
> were tiny (10-20um). A crystallization matrix to obtain better crystals
> by varying the imidazole pH and ethylene glycol concentrations was tried
> from which the best condition obtained was 0.1M imidazole pH 6.5 , 30%
> (v/v) ethylene glycol. The crystals were slightly bigger 50um.
> On trying the additive screen, bigger crystals (200um) were obtained, but
> putting them under the x-ray beam with direct freezing did not yield any
> diffraction spots.
> Trying other cryo-conditions like glycerol and 50-50 paratone/oil mixture
> also yielded similar results.
> Low resolution spots near the beam stop were also not seen. Similarly
> spots indicative of salt was also not seen. It just had hazy ice rings kind
> of stuff. (The beam was definitely on the crystal)
> To check if what we have was salt, a control condition with no protein was
> tried. Also the crystals were run on a gel after thorough washing. Both
> these tests, show that they are definitely protein crystals and not salt.
> Seeding also did not yield any improved crystals.
> I was suggested using di-ethylene glycol, propane diol as alternatives.
> I would greatly appreciate if you can give your opinion on using other
> di-alcohols as precipitants or other ways to improve these crystals.
> I tried searching the PDB to see if someone had actually used ethylene
> glycol as a precipitant, most of them were used as a cryo condition than
> actually as a precipitant.
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
> Regards
> Shankar Srinivasan
>
>

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