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Hello Bernhard,

could you explain this? A photon is the exchange particle of the
electromagnetic force, i.e. as soon as you have more than two charged
particles interacting there is more than one photon - why is it
incorrect to use the term "multi-photon process" in the context of
X-ray diffraction?

Cheers,
Tim

On 04/19/2013 06:19 PM, Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.) wrote:
> However, a reviewer could reject the method on theoretical grounds
> - the explanation of X-ray diffraction as a multi-photon process is
> not correct....
> 
> BR
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: CCP4 bulletin board
> [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Peter Artymiuk Sent:
> Friday, April 19, 2013 7:11 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject:
> Re: [ccp4bb] popular piece on X-ray crystallography
> 
> Just to clarify, Jeremy was not being serious, but imagining what
> an awkward / obnoxious grant reviewer might have said in 1913. But
> your points would be valuable in rebutting such a view
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 Apr 2013, at 11:28, Navdeep Sidhu wrote:
> 
>> Dear Pet,
>> 
>> On the contrary, far as I know, nature seems to require most
>> solids we see around us to be crystalline. And much of the rest
>> is either gaseous or plasma. Hence, by the reasoning proposed, we
>> are led to suspect a different conclusion: that it's studies
>> dealing with the remaining state that have "little general
>> applicability as the requirement for objects to force themselves
>> into" the disordered arrays of the liquid state "is an absurd
>> limitation." (However, I'd support funding it nevertheless.)
>> 
>> Best regards, Navdeep
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:14:04AM +0100, Peter Artymiuk
>> wrote:
>>> Another of my colleagues, Jeremy Craven, is an NMR
>>> spectroscopist and
> bioinformatician. He is in referee mode at present and comments:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Jeremy Craven <c.j.cra...@sheffield.ac.uk> Date: 19
>>>> April 2013 10:05:18 GMT+01:00 To: Peter Artymiuk
>>>> <p.artym...@sheffield.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Fwd: popular piece
>>>> on X-ray crystallography
>>>> 
>>>> I suspect this technique will have little general
>>>> applicability as the
> requirement for objects to force themselves into ordered arrays is
> an absurd limitation. I would not support funding it.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeremy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I fear he may be right
>>> 
>>> best wishes Pet
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19 Apr 2013, at 09:53, David Briggs wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Following on from that - readers may be interested in Stephen
>>>>  Curry's post in the Guardian, regarding the Crystallography
>>>> exhibit at the London Science Museum.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/occams-corner/2013/apr/19/1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> ============================ David C. Briggs PhD 
>>>> http://about.me/david_briggs
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19 April 2013 09:44, Peter Artymiuk
>>>> <p.artym...@sheffield.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear all
>>>>> 
>>>>> In Britain there is a free newspaper that you can pick up
>>>>> on buses
> called the Metro. My colleague Geoff Ford pointed out this short
> feature on the history X-ray crystallography in last Monday's Metro
> newspaper. I think it's rather good.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.cosmonline.co.uk/blog/2013/04/14/conquering-realm-invisi
>>>>>
>>>>> 
ble
>>>>> 
>>>>> best wishes Pete
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Prof Peter Artymiuk Krebs Institute Department of Molecular
>>>>> Biology & Biotechnology University of Sheffield Sheffield 
>>>>> S10 2TN ENGLAND
>> 
>> 
>> --- Navdeep Sidhu Departments of Structural Chemistry &
>> Pediatrics II University of Goettingen Office Address: Institute
>> of Inorganic Chemistry Tammannstrasse 4 37077 Goettingen Germany 
>> Email: nsi...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de Phone: +49 551 39 33059 Fax:
>> +49 551 39 22582 Dept. Homepage: http://shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de/ 
>> ---
> 
> Prof Peter Artymiuk Krebs Institute Department of Molecular Biology
> & Biotechnology University of Sheffield Sheffield S10 2TN ENGLAND
> 

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Dr Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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