Because your protein binds non-specifically, it could be an interesting case of 
static disorder where the DNAs are making a pseudo-continuous helix through the 
crystal regardless of sequence, and 12 bp/turn happens to fit nicely into a 
generic lattice.
How does the density for the individual bases look?
You could test that idea by substituting one T with BrdU.  I suspect you'll see 
multiple partially- occupied anomalous peaks in your asymmetric unit for those 
longer DNAs that pack like 12mers.


Here's a reference where an RNA duplex did a similar thing:

Crystal structures of two plasmid copy control related RNA duplexes: An 18 base 
pair duplex at 1.20 A resolution and a 19 base pair duplex at 1.55 A 
resolution.<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10555960>

Klosterman PS, Shah SA, Steitz TA.

Biochemistry. 1999 Nov 9;38(45):14784-92.

PMID:
10555960


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Phoebe A. Rice
Dept. of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
The University of Chicago

773 834 1723; pr...@uchicago.edu<mailto:pr...@uchicago.edu>
http://bmb.bsd.uchicago.edu/Faculty_and_Research/

http://www.rsc.org/shop/books/2008/9780854042722.asp

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Edayathumangalam [r...@brandeis.edu]
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 7:39 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Missing DNA density in Protein DNA complex structure

Dear Ashok,

There are many questions underlying your questions. A couple of things to check 
right off the bat:

(1) Do you actually know that your crystal still contains all of the DNA bp 
that you started with? Did you analyze the contents of your crystal by native 
PAGE, mass spec or other methods?

(2) Yes, the number of base pairs do matter, especially if you have 
quasi-helical DNA stacking interactions that facilitate packing along one of 
the unit cell dimensions. For example, 12-bp is a little over a turn in 
contrast to 17-bp, which is a little more than 1.5 turns of a DNA B-form helix.

(3) Are the crystal packing interactions in cases 1, 3, 4 and 5 similar? And, 
is there something unique about the packing in case 2, especially DNA-to-DNA 
packing? Make sure to display symmetry related molecules. That may explain why 
you can accommodate more molecules in the unit cell.

(4) Compare the DNA sequences in cases 1-5 above and see if there is a pattern 
to the type(s) of nucleotides that are bound by protein in each case.

It is hard to say more without knowing what the models look like but if your 
project is to investigate the DNA-protein interactions in more detail, the 
above-mentioned sorts of questions may be a place to start.

Good luck!
Raji








On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:21 AM, ASHOK KUMAR Patel 
<ashok...@gmail.com<mailto:ashok...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,



I am working on a DNA binding protein (mol wt around 30 kDa), which binds to 
Duplex DNA in a non-specific sequence manner. The structure has been published 
with 12 base pair duplex DNA.



I am trying to understand the DBD protein DNA interaction even more by choosing 
different lengths and sequences. In Co-crystallization I used 16, 18, 20 and 22 
bases palindromic sequence random DNA bases (purchased from IDT), annealed and 
used in crystallization.



I collected some diffraction data on NSLS recently at around 2.1 Å and 2.7 Å. 
But, when I did data processing, model building and refinement. I am getting 
strange results as depicted in the table..


S N


a=


b=


c=


α=


β=


γ=


Space group


No of molecules in asymmetric unit


Length of DNA

Used for crystallization


Duplex DNA found in structure


Resolution


1


38.67


61.43


76.77


90.00


104.17


90.00


P 1 21 1


1


12 base


12 base


2.0 Å


2


86.076


57.099


99.493


90.00


103.90


90.00


P 1 21 1


2


17 base


17 base


3.05  Å


3


37.855


61.668


76.601


90.00


102.24


90.00




P 1 21 1


1


18base


12 base


2.1 Å


4


37.073


61.864


78.242


90.000


100.810


90.000


P 1 21 1


1


20 base


12 base


2.7 Å


5


























20 base


12 base


3.1





My question and concerns are as:

1. How I am getting almost identical Cell parameters with different length of 
DNA (row 3 and 4) to the first row?

2. Why I am getting only 12 base duplex DNA instead of 18mer or 20 mer I used 
in crystallization.

3. Is anything has to do with ODD and EVEN duplex DNA. When odd 17 base duplex 
was used, it has 17 bases in the structure, while in all EVEN case of 18, 20 or 
20, only 12 bases in the structure.

4. The complex having odd DNA length 17 has 2 molecules in ASU while all other 
has 1.



Why only 12 mer DNA density in the complex? Why I am missing 6 or 8 bases in 
the density? How can we explain the missing DNA in the structure?



I will appreciate any kind of explanation and suggestions.



Thanks

Ashok

--
Ashok kumar patel
Department of Biophysics
Johns Hopkins University
Baltimore, MD 21218



--
Raji Edayathumangalam
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University

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