Before putting in the ligand, there is a clear density for three extra
atoms at more than 3 sigma in the Fo-Fc map but for other atoms the density
appears around those 3 peaks in the 2Fo-Fc map only and not in the Fo-Fc.

Thanks for your reply.
Amit


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Sampson, Jared <jared.samp...@nyumc.org>wrote:

> Hi Amit -
>
> I don't know of a universally accepted minimum sigma level, but I tend not
> to attempt to fit anything that doesn't have clearly interpretable density
> at 1.0 sigma (in a 2Fo-Fc map).  A map level of 0.5-0.6 sigma is very low,
> and to me, it's very likely that you're seeing "what you want to see" and
> fitting your ligand into noise.  Is there any positive Fo-Fc density
> (greater than about 2-3 sigma) at that location if you remove the ligand?
>  Do you see an appreciable decrease in Rfree when you add the ligand?  That
> would be an indicator to me that you have placed it correctly.
>
> Especially if identification of the ligand binding site is the primary
> purpose of this structure, I think you need stronger evidence of its
> presence.
>
> You may also want to try co-crystallization, which may reduce the effect a
> full soak has on the diffraction of the crystal.
>
> Cheers,
> Jared
>
> --
> Jared Sampson
> Xiangpeng Kong Lab
> NYU Langone Medical Center
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>
>
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Amit Kumar <amit7urmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > My protein is 26 kDa and the resolution of the data is 1.90 angs. My
> ligand is 174 Daltons. and it was soaked into the crystal. Ligand is
> colored and the crystal after soaking takes up intense color. However if we
> soak more than optimum, the color deepens in intensity but the crystal
> diffracts no more. So perhaps the ligand's occupancy can not be the 1.00.
> >
> > After model building I see ligand density, starting to appear at 0.7
> sigma and clear at 0.5-0.6 sigma, close to the protein residue where it
> "should" bind. Occupancy is ~0.6 after the refinement and B factors for the
> atoms of the ligand range from 30-80.
> >
> > Questions I have
> > (1) What is the acceptable sigma level for very small ligands for peer
> review/publication?
> > (2) I did refinement by Refmac and by Phenix refine, separately. The map
> quality for the ligand is better after the refmac refinement than after the
> Phenix refinement. Why is such a difference and which one should I trust? I
> used "mostly" default parameters for both (Phenix and Refmac) before the
> refinement.
> >
> > Thanks for your time.
> > Amit
> >
>
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