Dear George
My student class would not find that IUCr dictionary definition helpful. What 
they do find helpful is to state that they cannot contain an inversion or a 
mirror. 
To honour Sohnke is one thing but is it really necessary as a label? You're 
from Huddersfield I am from Wakefield ie let's call a spade a spade (not a 
'Black and Decker'). 
Cheers
John

Prof John R Helliwell DSc

> On 2 May 2014, at 17:01, George Sheldrick <gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> In my program documentation I usually call these 65 the Sohnke space groups, 
> as defined by the IUCr: 
> http://reference.iucr.org/dictionary/Sohnke_groups  
> 
> George
> 
> 
>> On 05/02/2014 02:35 PM, Jim Pflugrath wrote:
>> After all this discussion, I think that Bernhard can now lay the claim that 
>> these 65 space groups should really just be labelled the "Rupp" space 
>> groups.  At least it is one word.         
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Bernhard Rupp 
>> [hofkristall...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 3:04 AM
>> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Confusion about space group nomenclature
>> ….
>>  
>> Enough of this thread.
>>  
>> Over and out, BR
> 
> 
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