On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Nat Echols <nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Dirk Kostrewa <kostr...@genzentrum.lmu.de>
> wrote:
>
>> yes - unfortunately, in my hands, phenix.xtriage reads the XDS_ASCII.HKL
>> intensities as amplitudes, producing very different output statistics,
>> compared both to the XDS statistics and to an mtz file with amplitudes
>> created from that XDS file.
>>
>
> This is incorrect.  It does read it correctly as intensities - the
> confusion probably arises from the fact that Xtriage internally converts
> everything to amplitudes immediately, so that when it reports the summary
> of file information, it will say "xray.amplitude" no matter what the input
> type was (the same will also be true for Scalepack and MTZ formats).
> However, the data will be converted back to intensities as needed for the
> individual analyses.  Obviously this isn't quite ideal either since the
> original intensities are preferable but for the purpose of detecting
> twinning I hope it will be okay.  In any case the incorrect feedback
> confused several other users so it's gone as of a few weeks ago, and the
> current nightly builds will report the true input data type.  (The actual
> results are unchanged.)
>
> Tim: I have no reason to think we handle unmerged data poorly; I'm not
> sure who would have told you that.  In most cases they will be merged as
> needed upon reading the file.  I'm a little concerned that you're getting
> such different results from Xtriage and pointless/aimless, however.  Could
> you please send me the input and log files off-list?  Dirk, same thing: if
> you have an example where XDS and Xtriage are significantly in
> disagreement, the inputs (and logs) would be very helpful.  In both cases,
> I suspect the difference is in the use of resolution cutoffs and
> absolute-scaled intensities in Xtriage versus other programs, but I'd like
> to be certain that there's not something broken.
>

I stand corrected: unmerged XDS files (but not other formats) were not
being handled appropriately in Xtriage; this was fixed several weeks ago,
so the nightly builds should behave as expected.

-Nat

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