Just to give a concrete example of Randy's point, PDB entry 2ts1 for tyrosyl
tRNA synthetase has "layers" of molecules with no contact between the layers.
This is because the domain (residues 320-419) that was providing the contacts
in this direction was disordered and could not be modelled (there was very
little density in this region). It is perhaps surprising that in spite of the
disorder the crystals diffracted very well (2.3Å data collected on film).
Andrew
On 6 Feb 2015, at 11:16, Randy Read <rj...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Actually, if you go back through the archive of CCP4-BB from the first time
> this came up, I think you'll find that there are real crystals with apparent
> gaps in the packing. This can arise because of statistical disorder, where
> there are two or more ways that a statistically-disordered layer in the
> crystal can mediate the interaction between ordered layers. So not finding a
> connected packing is something to look closely at and worry about, but it
> doesn't necessarily indicate that somebody did a bad job of making up a
> structure.
>
> Randy
>
> On 6 Feb 2015, at 11:09, Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not in real crystal structures ;)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Robbie
>>
>> Sent with my Windows Phone
>> Van: Kerff Fred
>> Verzonden: 6-2-2015 12:02
>> Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Absence of contact between layers in a crystal
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Looking at structure 2HR0 ("The structure of complement C3b provides
>> insights into complement activation and regulation. »,Abdul Ajees, A.,
>> Gunasekaran, K., Volanakis, J.E., Narayana, S.V., Kotwal, G.J., Krishna
>> Murthy, H.M.; (2006) Nature 444: 221-225), I noticed the absence of
>> contacts between layers in the crystal. Is it something that has already
>> been observed in other crystals?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Fred
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>> > Le 6 févr. 2015 à 10:12, Tim Gruene <t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de> a écrit :
>> >
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>> > Dear Smith,
>> >
>> > The sca file most likely does not contain flags. pointless can read
>> > the sca file, standardise it to ccp4 standards and freerflag marks
>> > random reflections. You should use the maximum of 500 unique
>> > reflections or 5% of the unique reflections, whichever is larger.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Tim
>> >
>> > On 02/06/2015 09:49 AM, Smith Lee wrote:
>> >> Dear All, I have a sca file. Will you please tell me by which
>> >> software or how I can know whether the sca file contains R-free
>> >> tags? If not, by which software or how I can add the R-free tags?
>> >> And how much of the reflections I add the R-free tags? I am looking
>> >> forward to getting your reply. Smith
>> >>
>> >
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