Dear Shijun,

The reject.hkl file is the file with all rejected reflections. The first three 
numbers are h, k and l. For the other items you have to consult the HKL manual. 
As I said, I am not familiar with HKL2000. However, in your case, I would look 
in the log files instead of the .hkl files and see if you can find somewhere 
how many reflections were rejected for what reason. With XDS, I know where to 
find these numbers, for HKL2000 you have to ask a HKL2000 expert. For that 
reason I CC’d this email to the bulletin board.

Best,
Herman

Von: 张士军 [mailto:21620150150...@stu.xmu.edu.cn]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. November 2016 13:41
An: Schreuder, Herman R&D/DE
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [ccp4bb] confusing crystal diffraction


Dear Herman

This is the rejection file ,I can not understand that.Does anyone familiar with 
HKL2000 tell me what those mean ?
reject hkl
      1    0   13 p+   254       4.7       68.4  101      479.1
      1    0   13 a+   255       4.7     3117.1  101      479.1
      1    0   13 p+   256       4.7      263.7  101      479.1
      0   -1   13 n+   268       6.2       42.3  101      495.4
      0   -1   13 a+   269       6.2     3330.3  101      495.4
      0   -1   13 p+   270       6.2      881.7  101      495.4
     -1    0  -13 n-   251       4.5       20.2  101      491.1
     -1    0  -13 a-   252       4.5     2940.5  101      491.1
     -1    0  -13 p-   253       4.5      460.7  101      491.1
      0    1  -13 a-    89       6.6     2858.2  101      343.0
      0    1  -13 p-    90       6.6      612.6  101      343.0
      0    1  -13 p-   264       6.1       66.3  101      525.5
      0    1  -13 a-   265       6.1     3533.4  101      525.5
      0    1  -13 p-   266       6.1      796.9  101      525.5
      0   -1   15 p+    81       4.6      786.8  101      247.5
      0   -1   15 a+    82       4.6      916.5  101      247.5
      0    1  -15 n-    85       5.1       15.5  101      229.2
      0    1  -15 a-    86       5.1     1516.5  101      229.2
      0    1  -15 p-    87       5.1      194.3  101      229.2
      1    1   -8 n-   275       5.3        0.5  101      136.4
      1    1   -8 p-   276       5.3       34.2  101      136.4
      1    1   -8 p-   277       5.3      260.0  101      136.4
      1    1   -8 a-   278       5.3      517.6  101      136.4
      1    1   -8 p-   279       5.3      473.3  101      136.4
      1    1   -8 p-   280       5.3      203.4  101      136.4
      1    1   -8 p-   281       5.3       78.0  101      136.4
      2   -1    7 n+   285       4.4       32.2  101      280.7
      2   -1    7 a+   286       4.4     1731.7  101      280.7
      2   -1    7 p+   287       4.4      250.6  101      280.7
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Dear Shijun,

You should be able to processes this data. I have seen far worse diffraction 
patterns. What is the reason the reflections get rejected? HKL2000 should have 
nice graphical facilities that allow you to see whether the observed 
reflections fit in the predicted boxes.

Good luck!
Herman



Von: 张士军 
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. November 2016 09:16
An: Schreuder, Herman R&D/DE
Betreff: Re: AW: [ccp4bb] confusing crystal diffraction


Dear Herman

  yes ,I sent some smearing picture now ,and I will try XDS to check whether it 
can work or not

                                                                                
                                                        yours

                                                                                
                                                     shijun
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Dear

Could you send us some images of badly smearing spots? The images you sent us 
are absolutely fine and should not pose any problems processing.

Also, what is the reason the reflections get rejected? I have no experience 
with HKL2000 but I am sure it will produce in the output a table with numbers 
of rejected reflections together with a reason why they were rejected. Reasons 
could e.g. be: overloads, spot too far from predicted position, overlapping 
reflections, bad scaling statistics etc. Did you impose any specific space 
group for processing?

Judging from the images you send us, I would try processing in P1 (no space 
group imposed) and try to get the predicted spots as close as possible to the 
observed spots. If the spots at some other rotation angles are really smearing, 
I would switch to XDS, since XDS does a 3-dimensional profile fitting which 
works better for high-mosaicity (smearing) crystals.

Good luck!
Herman

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Hello guys

     I have crystal which was grown in 0.2M ammonium sulfate, 0.1M sodium 
cacodylate PH6.6, 40%MPD.I have asked how to resolve the smearing diffraction 
problem two month ago ,and got a lot of solutions .After tried most of the 
methods ,I can got a better diffraction result now,which was replace the MPD 
with glycerol step by step .Unfortunately the diffraction spots still have a 
little tailing,and it will smearing badly when the crystal rotated to some 
degree .According to this problem ,I have to cutoff some diffraction maps when 
I processing the data with HKL2000,but the scale result still  has a high 
rejection percentage and Rmerge ,maybe I need adjust some parameter of HKL2000 
when process ?I haven't any experience about that ,so Any one can give me some 
suggestions about the crystal harvest or HKL2000 process experience ? Thanks  a 
lot !!!!

                                                                                
                      Best Regard

                                                                                
                          Shijun

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