Hi

First things first...

> 2. I am not sure if iMosflm can be set to output the scale of specific space 
> group. For example, in my data set even though the integration is done at 
> P321 space group, after click "quick symm" or "quick scale" it seems the 
> program automatically choose what it thinks the most likely space group 
> P6222, not P321, I know in HKL2000 there is an option to choose specific 
> group and scale it, how to do this in iMosflm? I'd like to scale the data to 
> P321 and some subgroups in P3 but not P6222.

Yes, easily done. In the Indexing task, at the bottom left where iMosflm 
chooses the space group for you, there's a drop-down where you can pick any of 
the chiral trigonal or hexagonal space groups. You could even, if you wanted, 
type in any of the achiral space groups and that would work too. 

HOWEVER, unless you are using the Strategy option, I really wouldn't bother 
doing this (most of the time). The measured reflections for both trigonal and 
hexagonal space groups are the in the same places and the extra symmetry you 
would have from hexagonal is ignored in the integration. The QuickScale option 
will let Pointless do its job and give you a better analysis of the true 
symmetry and also apply the symmetry to your MTZ file (Pointless will use the 
intensities in its calculations, which is not something that Mosflm does).

Importing the output MTZ file from iMosflm (if you haven't run QuickScale) into 
either ccp4i or ccp4i2 will also run Pointless and try to sort out your 
symmetry for you.

> Does  this mean if I see twist variance greater than "1" then I need to fix 
> both "tilt' and "twist" value before integration in imosflm?

Yes, generally speaking if you fix tilt you would probably want to fix twist as 
well.

> In my case the variance is greater than 0.5 but less than 1, do I still need 
> to fix both "tilt" and "twist" value

Maybe, probably. It's hard to be definitive without seeing the graphs from 
integration or the full log file output.

Try it and see if the merging stats look better...

Harry
--
Dr Harry Powell
Chairman of International Union of Crystallography Commission on 
Crystallographic Computing
Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic 
Computing) 

> On 15 Feb 2017, at 16:36, Xiao Lei <xiaolei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear CCP4bb members,
> 
> I have two questions about imosflm integration and scaling process (my data 
> is 3A resolution and 0.5 degree mosaicity):
> 
> 1. I have warnings after integration saying the twist variance is too large 
> (from -0.26 to 0.33, which is larger than 0.5), suggesting that cell 
> parameters may be wrong, and reindex to the right space group may be needed. 
> After I read the imosflm tutorials from internet, the tutorials says "For 
> weak images the tilt and twist may not be well defined, and might refine to 
> large values (greater than one degree). In such cases these parameters should 
> be fixed. It is not generally recommended to fix any other detector 
> parameters."     
> 
> Does  this mean if I see twist variance greater than "1" then I need to fix 
> both "tilt' and "twist" value before integration in imosflm?   In my case the 
> variance is greater than 0.5 but less than 1, do I still need to fix both 
> "tilt" and "twist" value?
> 
> 2. I am not sure if iMosflm can be set to output the scale of specific space 
> group. For example, in my data set even though the integration is done at 
> P321 space group, after click "quick symm" or "quick scale" it seems the 
> program automatically choose what it thinks the most likely space group 
> P6222, not P321, I know in HKL2000 there is an option to choose specific 
> group and scale it, how to do this in iMosflm? I'd like to scale the data to 
> P321 and some subgroups in P3 but not P6222.
> 
> 
> Thanks for any inputs.
> 
> 

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