Thank you Robbie.
I guess ligands do not (or should not) appear in SEQRES therefore should
not have a TER record.

Eleanor

On 19 June 2017 at 11:04, Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Eleanor,
>
> From PDB format 3.3:
> * Every chain of ATOM/HETATM records presented on SEQRES records is
> terminated with a TER record.
> * The TER records occur in the coordinate section of the entry, and
> indicate the last residue presented for each polypeptide and/or nucleic
> acid chain for which there are determined coordinates. For proteins, the
> residue defined on the TER record is the carboxy-terminal residue; for
> nucleic acids it is the 3'-terminal residue.
> * For a cyclic molecule, the choice of termini is arbitrary.
> * Terminal oxygen atoms are presented as OXT for proteins, and as O5’ or
> OP3 for nucleic acids. These atoms are present only if the last residue in
> the polymer is truly the last residue in the SEQRES.
> * The TER record has the same residue name, chain identifier, sequence
> number and insertion code as the terminal residue. The serial number of the
> TER record is one number greater than the serial number of the ATOM/HETATM
> preceding the TER.
>
> It seems that many programs are indeed overenthusiastic and also putting
> them behind non-polymer residues or carbohydrates. TER records also appear
> (IMO incorrectly) after linker residues that are in SEQRES, but are not
> amino acids. This indeed causes side effects. I also noticed that COOT
> leaves TER records if you add C-terminal residues. This can cause Refmac to
> think that the residues should not be connected.
>
> Cheers,
> Robbie
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
> > Eleanor Dodson
> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 11:42
> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > Subject: [ccp4bb] REFMAC? COOT? and TER records
> >
> > These do seem to multiply wonderfully in the PDB output files and
> > sometimees to have have strange effects/ affects in COOT?
> >
> >
> > As I understand there should be a TER record after a protein chain? but
> not
> > after a ligand.
> >
> >
> > Dont know about carbohydrate chains.
> >
> >
> > Eleanor
> >
> >
> > The correspondence about N linked glycosylation brought it up..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>

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