I second the use of LSQMAN.
The command for calculating wo aligning appears to be:
rmsd_calc (abbreviated rm).
   http://xray.bmc.uu.se/usf/lsqman_man.html#S59

If you have multiple chains, use the option "chain_mode original"
before loading the pdb's to avoid renaming chains:
   http://xray.bmc.uu.se/usf/lsqman_man.html#S25

On 07/03/2017 06:32 AM, Stéphane Duquerroy wrote:
Hi James
LSQMAN can calculate the current RMSD between the 2 models (RMsd_calc mol1 
range1 mol2 range2 [Ltarget])
Be careful it renames the chain names

Stephane

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Dear ccp4 tribe,
this might have been asked before, but I haven't paid enough attention.

I'd like to measure the RMSD between two models after molecular replacement. I 
can force the two models to overlap as much as possible within the symmetry and 
origin-shift constraints (using CSYMMATCH). But I don't want the program that 
compute RMSD to align the two structures. Can you suggest what I should use? 
And, perhaps, what keywords I should adopt?

Many thanks, in advance.

James
Dr James Foadi PhD Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond House Harwell Science and 
Innovation Campus Didcot Oxfordshire OX11 0DE United Kingdom office email: 
james.fo...@diamond.ac.uk alternative email: j.fo...@imperial.ac.uk personal 
web page: http://www.jfoadi.me.uk

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