This typically happens in the US when any label is left on the Dewar that 
implies it contains liquid nitrogen, i.e. the green diamond label or any 
indication of previous hazardous shipment. The synchrotron sometimes ships them 
back wet (and adds these labels) There are special shipment rules and training 
required in this case.

The shipper should be shipped dry and needs to be labeled “Dry Shipper, 
Non-Regulated”. SSRL used to have information on this on its SMB user portal 
but they have updated this and I could not find it recently.

Note that in the US shipping a dry shipper that is still full with liquid 
nitrogen when improperly labeled carries a stiff penalty.

Cheers,

Eddie

Edward Snell Ph.D.
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Heisenberg was probably here!

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Thomas, 
Leonard M.
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 4:19 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] sending dewar to synchrotrons

To expand, we have been shipping to SSRL, though I don’t think it has anything 
to do with them.  It is being returned by the carrier, FedEx, on the way out.  
TheFedEx people down here have been very difficult to work with by providing no 
information.

Mostly I am just venting and wanted to see if this is isolated, more widespread 
then anybody thinks or random.  The occasional problem I can see but this is 
twice in a row so it just got me wondering.

Len


On Nov 20, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Loll,Patrick 
<pj...@drexel.edu<mailto:pj...@drexel.edu>> wrote:

Ouch. Can you expand on this? E.g, what carrier? What synchrotron? And who 
returns them—the carrier?

We just sent a dewar to APS via FedEx last week, and we had no problems (other 
than the fact that FedEx didn’t come to pick it up until 7:30 PM…)

Cheers,
Pat Loll


On 20 Nov 2017, at 3:14 PM, Thomas, Leonard M. 
<lmtho...@ou.edu<mailto:lmtho...@ou.edu>> wrote:

Hello All,

General inquiry here, I have been sending dewars out to synchrotrons for many 
years now and all of a sudden we have run into them being returned due to 
incomplete paper work or hazardous problems.  I was just wondering if anyone 
else had had this happen in the past and what you may have done to overcome it 
besides sending the dewar out a week yearly in hopes you have time to turn it 
around.  It has been rather frustrating.

Len Thomas

Leonard Thomas, Ph.D.
Macromolecular Crystallography Laboratory
Oklahoma COBRE in Structural Biology
Price Family Foundation Institute of Structural Biology
University of Oklahoma
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