Hi Nadia,

Ethan is quite right. R(free,unbiased) is explained in more detail in this 
paper (https://pdb-redo.eu/publications/CCP42011.pdf) and some of the 
references.

Cheers,
Robbie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
> Ethan Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 23:59
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] PDB redo and biased/unbiased R-free
> 
> On Tuesday, 06 February 2018 17:25:13 Nadia Leloup wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I was looking at a 3 angstrom structure from 2015 with relatively bad
> > statistics, so I decided to look at the pdb-redo of said structure.
> > Surprisingly, pdb-redo statistics are even worse.
> 
> You say "even worse", but the subset of statistics you show does not look so
> bad for a 3A structure either before or after re-refinement.
> Other than maybe the Rfree itself, which is what you ask about.
> 
> > As you can see on the
> > attached picture, the pdb-redo Rfree comes with a caveat:
> >
> > R-free was considered biased, the estimated unbiased R-free was used
> >
> > I understand that the R-free was considered biased because a new
> > (Rfree) test set was determined. However, I'm not sure what is the
> > unbiased R-free is / how it is calculated in this case?
> 
> From the "How does it work" page on the PDB Redo web site, my
> understanding is that rather than calculating Rfree from the re-refinement,
> various other quality measures are used to calculate an expected Rfree/R
> ratio consistent with other structures of similar quality.
> This ratio is then multipled by R to yield an estimated Rfree.
> 
> Robbie Joosten will probably correct me if I have that wrong :-)
> 
>       cheers,
> 
>               Ethan
> 
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Nadia
> 
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> Ethan A Merritt, Dept of Biochemistry
> Biomolecular Structure Center,  K-428 Health Sciences Bldg
> MS 357742,   University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742

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