Technically, if I recall that correct from my memory, if the link is in the
monomer library and the correct atoms are deleted, Refmac will use the link
from the library and create a LINKR record. I am not sure right now if they
are handled properly in the deposition process.

Cheers
Christian

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Eugene,
>
>
>
> A link describes a chemical bond between two residues. With each LINK
> modifications of the residues are described (e.g. leaving atoms and, in
> this case, changes of local chemistry such as bond orders).
>
> Each LINK type has a unique identifier that points to the descriptions in
> the CCP4 dictionary. Did you add those names (HEC-something, I don’t know
> them by hart)? And is your CCP4 up to date?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Robbie
>
>
>
> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Eugene
> Osipov <e.m.osi...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:53:49 PM
>
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Problems with HEC in CCP4
>
> Hi Robbie,
> I thought LINK just adds another bond restrain to the refinement procedure
> and does not affect already existing restrains in library cif file. Am I
> wrong?
> Also, what do you mean by "modify the chemistry"?
> Just to test your suggestion, I have added LINKs for heme c vynil groups
> in 4qo5 and ran refinement in refmac 5.8. I took F(+) from deposited cif
> file as F and SigF(+) as SIGF. After refinement HEC601 and HEC604 have
> incorrect position of CBC atom.
> Note: I took 4qo5 just as example of cytochrome c to show issues with HEC
> and do not intend to insult authors of original paper.
>
> 2018-05-15 12:00 GMT+03:00 Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com>:
>
>> Addendum:
>>
>> 4qo5 actually lacks the right LINK records altogether. It will only work
>> if you add these by hand. Perhaps you should ask the depositors or the PDB
>> to add the appropriate LINK records.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Robbie
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Robbie
>> > Joosten
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 10:51
>> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Problems with HEC in CCP4
>> >
>> > Hi Eugene,
>> >
>> > The problem is not in the HEC.cif file but with the LINKs which modify
>> the
>> > chemistry. These were fixed a while ago and the LINKs were added to the
>> > CCP4 dictionary. I thought these were released already. If not, they
>> will be
>> > soon.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Robbie
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of
>> > Eugene
>> > > Osipov
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 10:36
>> > > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> > > Subject: [ccp4bb] Problems with HEC in CCP4
>> > >
>> > > Dear CCP4 developers,
>> > > please fix errors with heme c dictionary file HEC.cif.
>> > > Edward Berry described this problem in detail 4 years ago:
>> > > https://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg36393.html
>> > > This error already affects deposited entries, e.g.: 4QO5 clearly
>> > > contains errors in vynil groups of heme c.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Eugene Osipov
>> > > Junior Research Scientist
>> > > Laboratory of Enzyme Engineering
>> > > A.N. Bach Institute of Biochemistry
>> > > Russian Academy of Sciences
>> > > Leninsky pr. 33, 119071 Moscow, Russia
>> > > e-mail: e.m.osi...@gmail.com <mailto:e.m.osi...@gmail.com>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Eugene Osipov
> Junior Research Scientist
> Laboratory of Enzyme Engineering
> A.N. Bach Institute of Biochemistry
> Russian Academy of Sciences
> Leninsky pr. 33, 119071 Moscow, Russia
> e-mail: e.m.osi...@gmail.com
>

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