Indeed! Scientists in the Soviet Bloc got paid for publishing their scientific papers (and maybe for citations as well - not sure about that one)! We need to change the current system! Although these changes could be accompanied by many other pleasant virtues of the Soviet regime.
Petr > On Jun 29, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Hughes, Jon <jon.hug...@bot3.bio.uni-giessen.de> > wrote: > > whose paper? our universities pay subscriptions for these journals and we > even pay on top of that for the pages of our publications (even when they're > not actually printed!), whilst we review papers for free! sounds like a > well-validated way to use taxpayers' money to keep the expensive company cars > etc. nice and shiny. why don't universities just require reimbursement for > the time we invest to insure that the merchandise is up to standard? €100 per > hour would be cheap. seems to me as though some capitalists need to add a few > lines to their balance sheets.... > best, jon > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Robbie > Joosten > Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Juni 2018 13:42 > An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Oxford University Press > > Yes, but think of all the money they miss due to your pirating of their paper > ;) It's the typical discussion about whether piracy of copyrighted material > leads to loss or gain of revenue. There are a lot of models here, but not > necessarily well-validated. > > Anyway, if people want to read your papers and cannot get them from > ResearchGate, I'm sure they can find them on another online collection, a hub > of some sort ;) > > Cheers, > Robbie > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bernhard Rupp [mailto:hofkristall...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 13:23 >> To: 'Robbie Joosten'; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] Oxford University Press >> >> Agreed, but for 10 years old papers this seems a bit of overkill.... >> >> >> >> From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Robbie >> Joosten >> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:11 >> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Oxford University Press >> >> >> >> Were they open access papers? If they were, than OUP is being too >> aggressive (IMO), but otherwise it makes sense. I also find the >> ResearchGate is rather aggressive in bugging you to upload papers that >> are readily available from the publisher. The whole business bit in >> scientific publishing is a necessary (?) evil, but I guess if given >> the choice one should publish somewhere where you as an author retain >> copyright. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Robbie >> >> >> >> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of >> Bernhard Rupp >> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 11:42 >> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Subject: [ccp4bb] Oxford University Press >> >> >> >> Hi Fellows, >> >> >> >> just an advisory that Oxford University Press is pretty aggressive in >> >> enforcing copyright - I had to remove 2 Bioinformatics papers >> >> from ResearchGate. >> >> >> >> Fortunately, authors have choices, too.... >> >> >> >> Cheers, BR >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Bernhard Rupp >> >> http://www.hofkristallamt.org/ >> >> b...@hofkristallamt.org >> >> +1 925 209 7429 >> >> +43 676 571 0536 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Many plausible ideas vanish >> >> at the presence of thought >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
