Dear All,

I suspect the way out of this is a new crystal (!) but interested to hear any 
advice.

I have two crystal forms of a 500aa protein, vaguely tube-shaped

1=P3121, diffracts to 4.1 ang, 3 copies in asu, 86% solvent; map indicates it 
is a relative of other folds (but those are not so close that they'd be a good 
guide to sequence register). I have selenomet SAD phases which helps identify 
Met positions. The 3-fold and high solvent give a great map but you wouldn't 
want to build it and buccanner and phenix think similar

2=I222, 2 copies per asu, 66% solvent. This has a cell that gives wildly 
anisotropic diffraction - ~3, 3.5, 4.3 down different axes. Not really 
rectified by staraniso. No phases

So I can cut the density out of form 1 map (using secondary structure elements 
of a rough PDB as a mask), and use phaser with this density as search model to 
find the two copies with a TFZ of about 10. The phaser map shows a bit of 
detail and the solution has placed the protomers such that they agree with a 
self-rotation function. Phenix find_ncs on phaser map similarly agrees (as I 
would expect).

Now...I have an eye on multi-crystal averaging between the two forms. BUT the 
phaser map isn't good enough to manually place the PDB used in cut-out density, 
and I can't see a straightforward way of using the angle info in phaser sol to 
perform a co-ordinate transformation (but I think ccp4bb users will put me 
right on this - I'd imagine placing the PDB into the cutout density mtz then 
using PDBset?). I tried converting the phaser mtz to a map using FFT then using 
phased TF in Molrep to place the PDB but this didn't work, complaining about 
the grid used.

One last caveat - I have multiple sets for the I222 that intriguingly differ by 
12 angstrom down a 240 ang axis: doing multi-crystal averaging between  these 
two forms achieves little when I would expect otherwise (all the NCS 
correlations are good, high initial agreement)

Like I said...fingers crossed for a new crystal form!

Andy





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