Hi Jacob,

An additional technique to identify sodium is microPIXE, which can be used for 
elemental mapping. I'm not sure if the sulfur signal would be strong enough to 
be quantitative.

A ref: https://www.cell.com/structure/pdf/S0969-2126(00)88335-5.pdf

Hope that helps,
Sarah

Sarah EJ Bowman, PhD

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Director, High-Throughput Crystallization Screening Center
Research Associate Professor, Department of Biochemistry, University at Buffalo

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From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Artem Evdokimov 
<artem.evdoki...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Artem Evdokimov <artem.evdoki...@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 9:20 PM
To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Sodium Ion Binding?

Hi Jacob

Not the easiest task... Based on past experience your major issue will be the 
incredible abundance of sodium ions in everything.

So assuming you have high quality sodium free solutions and are willing to work 
exclusively in plastic, quartz or fused silica - here are a few thoughts:

1. Na-22 isotope binding. An oldie but goodie.
2. Sodium-reactive dye equilibrium (see e.g. reference I put at the end)
3. Flame or ion coupled plasma spectroscopy. Very nice to do given the 
marvellous sodium band.
4. Sodium selective glass electrode (requires more solution of your analyte 
than the other methods)

Overall the key component to these methods is your ability to displace the 
sodium with something else prior to measuring the effect of titration the ion 
back. Isotopic Na is easier in this regard - but at a cost...

Hope this helps.

Artem

https://bmcresnotes.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1756-0500-6-556

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://clinchem.aaccjnls.org/content/clinchem/24/4/580.full.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwis5KL_vM_lAhXCmuAKHY2cAVQQFjAFegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0Yhz23Yr_ulB85MDQspIFl&cshid=1572833723049


On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 20:41 Keller, Jacob 
<kell...@janelia.hhmi.org<mailto:kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>> wrote:
Dear Crystallographers,

Does anyone know of a good biophysical way to identify or quantify sodium ion 
binding to a protein, besides crystallography and ITC? Is this possible with 
SPR, perhaps? Mass spec? Gel shifts? Examples would be greatly appreciated!

All the best,

Jacob Keller


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