It's been an enlightening discussion. There are a number of resources available 
to help the scientific community with these issues, including a new app that 
was described just yesterday in Nature Index:  https://tinyurl.com/swu3ecn


Sarah

Sarah EJ Bowman, PhD

Associate Research Scientist, Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
Director, High-Throughput Crystallization Screening Center
Research Associate Professor, Department of Biochemistry, University at Buffalo

Research Webpage<https://hwi.buffalo.edu/scientist-directory/sbowman/>
www.getacrystal.org<http://www.getacrystal.org/>
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I would like to add my thoughts. Best wishes,

Isabel


1-   I appreciate Eddy Snell is raising an issue that is real and I would like 
to thank him for it.

2-   I feel the discussion should be separated from this particular workshop in 
Montevideo. In the recent workshop in Shanghai I was the only female speaker. 
Is it that different? Would it have been different if I had been able to accept 
their invitation to this edition of a workshop I regularly attend? There have 
been quite a few more women in their program in past editions of the South 
American workshops and it would be extremely unfair to pick on them rather than 
valuing their role advancing science and education. I am indebted to Brazil and 
CCP4 for funding my research and for the opportunities their education and 
support constantly open.

3-   As a developer, I appreciate being involved in the decision of who 
represents my methods, I expect my male colleagues will feel the same way, so 
having a parallel detached pool of female tutors is problematic from the onset 
and places such tutors in a vulnerable position, open for criticism. I would 
welcome offers of such cooperation and I am open to work with volunteers.

4-   I have thought for a long time on why it is that we (women) lag back in 
our careers and for me the deepest insight came reading the homework of a 14 
year old girl. School assignment for sports: the composition and strategy of a 
football team for her class. “And myself I would place as a defender because I 
want to play and I will have far better chances taking the ball from my 
opponent than expecting any of the boys in my team to ever pass it to me.” To 
me this is the essence. Anyone who is different from the pre-conceived role 
model has to fight for opportunities, if you conform to what people expect, you 
still need to make the best of your opportunities but they will arrive 
repeatedly.

5-   We need to create (early) opportunities for those who do not conform to 
the norm because they get too few. In the school story, the teacher reacted 
issuing a rule that for two weeks only goals scored by the girls in the teams 
would count. This prompted a change. So, positive discrimination is necessary 
where it will make a difference. It is even a misnomer; there should be a 
mechanism to correct the existing negative discrimination. Some environments 
that do not find suitable women to appoint would find some if pushed by 
funding. As research directions are picked when there are grant opportunities.

6-   Gender is just one aspect of diversity, there are others: nationality, 
accent, education background… having a comprehensive look the statistic is far 
more narrow than male-caucasian. The principle of looking away from the obvious 
expectation is general.

7-   This edition of the school in Montevideo will have a speaker who 10 years 
ago was a student in the course. Would a South American student relate more to 
a role model with the same background or with the same gender? To my former 
student-self Eleanor Dodson was as much of a mythological creature in the Olymp 
as George Sheldrick.

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Crystallographic Methods
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Molecular Biology Institute of Barcelona, Spanish Research Council;
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