Dear all,
I assume most of you are aware of the EMBL-EBI datahub which was set up in 
January to provide essential virus research data to all scientists, but in case 
someone missed it I would like to share the link:
https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/pathogens/covid-19 
(https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/pathogens/covid-19)
You can find all relevant data, from COVID-19 genome sequencing data up to 
x-ray and cryo-EM structures of relevant proteins.
Stay healthy,
Nikolay
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On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 17:26, DUMAS Philippe (IGBMC)  wrote: 
Relevant to the discussion:
* Cell, Vol. 110, 551–561, September 6, 2002, Copyright 2002 by Cell Press
An RNA Thermosensor Controls Expression of Virulence Genes in Listeria 
monocytogenes
* Bacterial RNA thermometers: molecular zippers and switches
Jens Kortmann and Franz Narberhaus
NATURE REVIEWS | MICROBIOLOGY VOLUME 10 | APRIL 2012 | 255
*An RNA Thermometer Activity of the West Nile Virus Genomic 30-Terminal 
Stem-Loop Element Modulates Viral Replication Eciency during Host Switching
Viruses 2020, 12, 104; doi:10.3390/v12010104
* Temperature triggers immune evasion by Neisseria meningitidis

Edmund Loh1*, Elisabeth Kugelberg2*, Alexander Tracy1, Qian Zhang2, Bridget 
Gollan2, Helen Ewles2, Ronald Chalmers3,
Vladimir Pelicic2 & Christoph M. Tang1,2
Nature (2013)
Philippe Dumas
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De: "James Holton" 
À: "CCP4BB" 
Envoyé: Dimanche 22 Mars 2020 16:38:28
Objet: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4BB vs COVID19
Thank you Patrick,

 RNA structure is still structural biology, so I think relevant here.  It seems 
to me that RNA as a thermometer would be an easy hypothesis to test?  Has 
anyone measured virulence vs temperature in cell culture?  

 The 3D structure of the genome is no doublt important.  I wouldn't want to try 
crystallizing the whole thing, but I wonder if this might be an excellent 
target for cryoEM?  A challenge for that "we can classify our way out of 
anything" philosophy?  And the result would most certainly be interesting.

 -James Holton
 MAD Scientist
On 3/21/2020 8:41 AM, Patrick Shaw Stewart wrote:
 James, this isn't conventional structural biology, but may be of interest, and 
I haven't been able get any mainstream virologists to think about it. 
The protein sequences are obviously of interest, but so are the RNA sequences 
at both ends of the Covid genome, which have conserved secondary structure.  A 
few years ago a paper came out suggesting that wild-type influenza has multiple 
"RNA thermometers", which may play an important role in the tropism of 
influenza.  Similar mechanisms may exist in other respiratory viruses, 
including Covid. 
My take on this, and the relevant papers, are below. 
Good luck to everyone and stay well,  
Patrick 
https://oldwivesandvirologists.blog/Covid-19-and-the-trade-off-model-of-selection/
 
(https://oldwivesandvirologists.blog/Covid-19-and-the-trade-off-model-of-selection/)
    
My paper in Medical Hypotheses 
http://douglas.co.uk/f_ftp1/ShawStewart_final_1-s2.pdf 
(http://douglas.co.uk/f_ftp1/ShawStewart_final_1-s2.pdf)    
Narberhaus, Franz, Torsten Waldminghaus, and Saheli Chowdhury. "RNA 
thermometers." FEMS microbiology reviews 30.1 (2006): 3-16.    
Chursov, Andrey, et al. "Specific temperature-induced perturbations of 
secondary mRNA structures are associated with the cold-adapted 
temperature-sensitive phenotype of influenza A virus." RNA biology 9.10 (2012): 
1266-1274.    
Yang, Dong, and Julian L. Leibowitz. "The structure and functions of 
coronavirus genomic 3′ and 5′ ends." Virus research 206 (2015): 120-133.   
 On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:59 PM James Holton  wrote:
 You might think that as a structural biologist you won't be able to do 
 much about COVID-19 anytime soon, but that is not true.  Yes, real-world 
 therapeutics and vaccines take time, but we have already seen just how 
 fast we can get started.  There are 21 PDBs already and some even have 
 bound ligands.  Good job Frank et al. BTW!  And my personal thanks to 
 all of you out there who are already hard at work on this.

 I believe this forum is an ideal place to share information and ideas on 
 the structural biology of SARS-CoV-2 as we move forward. It's a big 
 virus, but there are not that many proteins in it.  If all of us 
 independently do the same bioinformatics and literature searches and end 
 up trying exactly the same thing in every lab all over the world, then 
 that would be more than unfortunate.  To that end, I am personally 
 interested on ORF8 for reasons I will go into below.  Has anyone tried 
 to solve it yet?  What happened?  Didn't express? Bad diffraction?  
 What?  Do tell.

 Some of us, as you may have heard, are stuck at home, our beamlines and 
 labs dark while we shelter-in-place.  That doesn't mean our hands are 
 tied.  We are still allowed to think. The fraction of the human race 
 that has a snowball's chance in Hades of figuring out this bug is very 
 very small.  Structure may be your main skill set, but you are still a 
 biologist.  Do you know how to run a PCR machine?  Do you know how to 
 pipette?  You might think that anybody can do it, but that is really not 
 the case. Ever trained a new student on sterile technique?  How many 
 days did that take?  Now remember that your student was no dummy and 
 already studying biology.  Everyone reading this will make an excellent 
 volenteer at the very least.  I'm not saying this to belittle the 
 average human, only to say that we scientists, moving in the circles we 
 do, often forget that we have uncommon capabilities.

 For example, I also believe we can be useful in assay development. The 
 void left by the dearth and delay of test results has been filled with 
 fear, and that is a big problem.  The tests, as defined, are 
 straightforward, but also extremely regimented like any good laboratory 
 protocol should be.  The US CDC's instructions for academic labs are here:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/lab/index.html 
(https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/lab/index.html)
 My question is: how can this test be made faster, using more commonplace 
 supplies, in high-throughput mode and still valid?  Not just for 
 clinical but for academic use?  I think more than a few people on this 
 list could be regarded as experts in making a complex biochemical task 
 faster, more efficient, high-throughput and nonetheless valid.  Yes, 
 there are other people who do virus testing for a living, but right now 
 they are all rather busy.  Maybe if we put our minds to it we can help?

 As for why ORF8.  I am basing my interest on the bioinformatics done in 
 this article: https://dx.doi.org/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036 
(https://dx.doi.org/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036).  Search for 
 "T8517C" and you will find what I'm talking about.  The authors found 
 two "types" of SARS-CoV-2.  They call them "S" and "L" because the only 
 conserved amino acid change involved is S84L in ORF8.  The "S" type is 
 believed to be the ancestor of "L".  What is interesting is how tightly 
 linked this mutation is to a silent mutation on the other end of the 
 genome: the "L" type has a faster codon for Ser in ORF1.  Such tight 
 coupling (r^2=0.945) means there must be significant selective pressure 
 preventing both of these mutations occurring in the same virus at the 
 same time.  That, I believe, is interesting.  Espeically since they are 
 so far apart I expect this selective pressure might work in trans: as in 
 a super-infection. That is, the S and L genome types may interfere with 
 each other.

 The authors fall short of claiming evidence of interference upon 
 super-infection, and indeed they have already been criticised for 
 calling "L" the "aggressive" type.  But it is still interesting and 
 points a finger at ORF8.

 ORF8 has only one homolog in the PDB: 5o32 with 25% identity over a 
 stretch of 60 residues.  This homologous region contains the S84L site 
 (Val I544 in 5o32).  I had a quick look and appears to be a 
 cavity-filling mutation to me.  Not very big, but maybe something could 
 fit in there.  To be sure we'd need a structure of ORF8.

 Good luck to you all, and stay healthy.

 -James Holton
 MAD Scientist

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