Hi Eugene,

Many thanks – that’s sorted it!

Best wishes

Dave

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John Innes Centre,
Norwich,
NR4 7UH, UK.
Tel: +44-(0)1603-450725
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Sent: Monday, July 17, 2023 11:59 AM
To: David Lawson (JIC) <david.law...@jic.ac.uk>
Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] real space refinement broken in COOT 0.9.8.8 EL?

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Hi!

Yes, it's been broken for a long time, but it will be fixed in Coot very soon 
[https://pemsley.github.io/coot/blog/2023/06/05/AA-RNA.html].
A workaround is to downgrade to CCP4 v. 8.0.006 (Coot v. 0.9.8.5) through the 
CCP4 Update Manager.

Best,
Eugene

On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 1:45 PM David Lawson (JIC) 
<david.law...@jic.ac.uk<mailto:david.law...@jic.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hi All,

Is it just me, but is real space refinement broken in COOT 0.9.8.8 EL? I am 
seeing this working through CCP4i2 (CCP4-8.0.012) and CCP4 cloud (v 1.7) on an 
M1 iMac (running Monterey 12.6.7). I am working on a protein-DNA complex and 
finding that often when I do real space refinement (well, I mostly use tandem 
refinement) the atoms just shoot off in one direction to give a very scrambled 
structure, even if I am just doing final tweaks on a close to final structure. 
I don’t know if it has something to do with the DNA restraints, because 
refining the protein in regions distant from the DNA seems fine, whereas 
working on protein regions close to the DNA, or on the DNA itself, generally 
results in a mess.

However, if I revert to COOT 0.9.6 EL (as distributed with CCP4-7) with the 
same input files, the problem goes away.

Any help much appreciated,

Dave

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Prof. David M. Lawson
Department of Biochemistry and Metabolism,
John Innes Centre,
Norwich,
NR4 7UH, UK.
Tel: +44-(0)1603-450725
Web: https://www.jic.ac.uk/people/david-lawson
Email: david.law...@jic.ac.uk<mailto:david.law...@jic.ac.uk>



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