Dear Yimin and CCP4BB readers,

     The autoPROC Wiki page mentioned in Clemens's message (below) is being
regularly updated with the results emerging from extending that comparison
to the improved BUILT=20241002 of the 20240630 version of XDS announced in
Kay's message.


     With best wishes,

          Gerard.

--
On Wed, Oct 02, 2024 at 05:17:56PM +0100, Clemens Vonrhein wrote:
> Dear Yimin,
> 
> without wanting to preempt additional feedback that the XDS developers
> might be able to provide (concerning the changes within that July 2024
> XDS version that seem to trigger the differences you see), may we
> suggest that you have a look at
> 
>   
> https://www.globalphasing.com/autoproc/wiki/index.cgi?ComparisonProcessing202409
> 
> Here we have collected a large amount of information and detailed
> comparisons regarding the new 2024 XDS version (that we also shared
> and discussed in detail with the XDS developers over the last weeks)
> ... and just in the last few hours we discovered that (1) a binary for
> the previous 2023 version with an extended lifetime is now available
> at [1], and that (2) a new/modified 2024 version has been published
> with some hints about changes.
> 
> We are testing this very latest version (20241002) as we speak and we
> will update the comparison page mentioned above accordingly. So
> ... stay tuned ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Clemens
> 
> [1] https://xds.mr.mpg.de/
> 
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2024 at 04:30:55PM +0200, Yimin Hu wrote:
> > Dear colleagues,
> > 
> > I ran into a problem when I reprocessed a dataset after switching to XDS 
> > VERSION Jun 30, 2024.
> > 
> > Processing the dataset with the old XDS I ended up with these statistics:
> > 
> > RESOLUTION     NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS    COMPLETENESS R-FACTOR  R-FACTOR 
> > COMPARED I/SIGMA   R-meas  CC(1/2)  Anomal  SigAno   Nano
> >    LIMIT     OBSERVED  UNIQUE  POSSIBLE     OF DATA   observed  expected    
> >                                   Corr
> >      5.78       16747    1239      1253       98.9%       7.4%      8.5%    
> > 16745   29.13      7.6%    99.9*     2    0.740     465
> >      4.10       29921    2220      2226       99.7%       8.9%      8.7%    
> > 29921   28.12      9.2%    99.8*     9    0.897     951
> >      3.35       40065    2848      2849      100.0%      10.1%      9.3%    
> > 40065   23.84     10.4%    99.8*     3    0.841    1264
> >      2.91       44213    3390      3390      100.0%      13.5%     13.0%    
> > 44213   14.61     14.1%    99.8*   -10    0.717    1537
> >      2.60       54235    3827      3827      100.0%      24.6%     28.4%    
> > 54235    9.08     25.5%    99.5*   -15    0.611    1758
> >      2.38       62062    4270      4270      100.0%      42.5%     57.6%    
> > 62062    5.40     44.1%    98.8*   -10    0.565    1973
> >      2.20       62076    4589      4589      100.0%      76.3%    111.3%    
> > 62076    3.06     79.2%    97.0*    -7    0.549    2138
> >      2.06       67437    4941      4941      100.0%     116.7%    176.7%    
> > 67437    2.03    121.3%    89.2*    -8    0.541    2311
> >      1.94       70590    5226      5268       99.2%     232.1%    363.5%    
> > 70579    0.93    241.2%    64.3*    -4    0.511    2451
> >     total      447346   32550     32613       99.8%      12.7%     14.4%   
> > 447333    9.30     13.2%    99.9*    -5    0.621   14848
> > 
> > 
> > Reprocessing the dataset with the new version I ended up with the following 
> > statistics though I kept the parameters essentially the same:
> > 
> >  RESOLUTION     NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS    COMPLETENESS R-FACTOR  R-FACTOR 
> > COMPARED I/SIGMA   R-meas  CC(1/2)  Anomal  SigAno   Nano
> >    LIMIT     OBSERVED  UNIQUE  POSSIBLE     OF DATA   observed  expected    
> >                                   Corr
> > 
> >      5.80       16932    1220      1240       98.4%       7.2%      8.5%    
> > 16930   28.65      7.5%    99.9*   -39    0.502     459
> >      4.12       29888    2207      2209       99.9%       9.9%      9.3%    
> > 29888   25.46     10.3%    99.7*     0    0.707     945
> >      3.37       34817    2796      2836       98.6%      14.9%     11.7%    
> > 34817   17.63     15.5%    99.7*    15*   0.947    1244
> >      2.92       42552    3268      3347       97.6%      24.5%     23.5%    
> > 42552   10.04     25.5%    99.6*   -12    0.583    1481
> >      2.61       54120    3811      3816       99.9%      56.8%     69.2%    
> > 54120    6.14     58.9%    98.2*   -14    0.543    1750
> >      2.38       60922    4173      4221       98.9%     358.4%    464.1%    
> > 60922    2.93    371.4%    93.7*   -18    0.421    1897
> >      2.21       52076    3861      4566       84.6%     -99.9%    -99.9%    
> > 52076    0.00    -99.9%    66.9*   -37    0.306    1566
> >      2.06       40823    3045      4911       62.0%     -99.9%    -99.9%    
> > 40823    0.00    -99.9%    33.3*   -39    0.196    1047
> >      1.95       34764    2526      5227       48.3%     -99.9%    -99.9%    
> > 34764    0.00    -99.9%    14.7*   -48    0.072     585
> >     total      366894   26907     32373       83.1%      28.2%     29.1%   
> > 366892    7.57     29.2%    99.8*   -16    0.493   10974
> > 
> > I tried to tweak several parameters, especially for background subtraction, 
> > but it didn't really help. It would be great if you could give me some 
> > suggestions. Thank you in advance!
> > 
> > Best,
> > Yimin
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Yimin Hu 
> > (Pronouns: she/her)
> > PhD Student
> > Department of Protein Evolution
> > Max Planck Institute for Biology, Tübingen
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