Dear All,

Thank you for all replies. Yes, I discovered "Replace Residue" option with help 
of @Aibara, Shintaro<mailto:[email protected]> and Oliver Smart. 
(Why Replace and Mutate exist separately? Would be great to know.)
However, the CCP4 library contains PCA.cif where it is mentioned as "P-peptide" 
(depending on version of CCP4 it also mentioned as "Non-polymer").  Misha 
Isupov was very instrumental to mention this because without reading in the new 
library file for PCA with "L-peptide" to Coot "Real Space Refine" was throwing 
PCA and neighboring amino acids out of density. However, I haven't refined the 
model yet in Refmac, but hoping the PCA will be correctly recognized.

Vaheh

From: Oliver Smart <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2025 8:52 AM
To: Oganesyan, Vaheh <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; Paul Emsley <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Pyroglutamic acid

Dear Vaheh,

In Coot 0.9.8.95<http://0.9.8.95> (ccp4), if you want to mutate to a 
non-standard amino acid, then instead of using the "Mutate & Auto Fit", you 
need to use the "Edit" -> "Replace Residue" option and type in the 3-letter 
code.

Before doing this, load a restraint dictionary with _chem_comp.group set to 
"L-PEPTIDE," as Paul suggests. The Grade2 restraint dictionary for PCA already 
gets the group correct, but you can edit the CCP4 library dictionary.

Once the mutation has occurred, use the "Real Space Refine Zone" and select the 
N-terminal residue and the following residue to fix the peptide bond geometry. 
This works great for me.

Hope this helps

Oliver

PS The coot documentation has a section on this:

https://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/personal/pemsley/coot/web/docs/coot.html#Mutating-to-a-Non_002dStandard-Residue<https://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/personal/pemsley/coot/web/docs/coot.html#Mutating-to-a-Non_002dStandard-Residue>

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 at 07:20, Paul Emsley 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


On 21/03/2025 21:06, Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:


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Hello,

Hello Vaheh.

The N-terminal Gln in one of the structures cyclizes on itself forming 
pyroglutamic acid. Coot has one as a ligand under name PCA.
The CCP4 monomer library, yes.

However, even after removing OXT
the geometry of the amino acid and its fit to density could be better.
OK, but what treatment did you give your PCA to get it into such a state?

Is there an option use it as an amino acid like seeing it in "Mutate & Auto 
Fit" place and not as a ligand?

PCA in the monomer library is a non-polymer. Coot won't allow you to add 
non-polymers to a protein chain.
It is not a ligand at the end.
In that case, change the group to peptide in the dictionary. I don't recall if 
Coot deletes the OXT for you in "Mutate & Auto Fit" - but it should be trivial 
to do post-hoc.




Sorry for posting in CCP4 bb and not Coot bb.


That's not a problem. However, the fact that you replied to a message in the 
"Words to avoid" is - it means that your question and this answer (for whatever 
it's worth) will be buried in the wrong thread.

A new topic should have a new thread.

Paul.



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