Hello,

All suggestions on what and how to handle this case are good. However, aren’t 
we missing a major point?
How could a model that exhibits gross disagreement with data be allowed in PDB? 
Isn’t validation protocol created to prevent cases like this?

Vaheh

From: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nikolas
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2025 5:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ccp4bb] How to address deposited structures poorly modeled?

*enters the BB and kneels in reverence*

Dear BB,

Recently, delving among papers and structures for a current project, I came 
across a deposited structure of interest that is terribly modeled. In the PDB 
resolution is 2.00 Å (R/Rfree=0.19/0.22) and the quality indicators are not 
terrible but upon opening it and checking the maps there are some severe 
mistakes in the modeling.
For instance, a full chain that is in the negative Fo-Fc while positive density 
is present, some density that is quite clear for SO4 molecules (buffer) modeled 
as water and density for water molecules neglected. Some parts seem like 
“coot:runwater” has been used and not checked. The catalytic site is well 
defined.

Now, I’ve started my journey in crystallography not too long ago and I’ve got 
many years, structures to solve and things to learn, and I know that sometimes 
the dataset “is what it is” but these seems quite big mistakes. Especially 
because I’ve worked with such proteins before and I know the systems.

My question thus is: would it be right to contact the author of this structure 
and point to these issues? What’s the best way to address such things, possibly 
without coming off as obnoxious?

Thank you for your wisdom.

Cheers,
Nikolas

*bows and leaves the BB*



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