On 2015-06-10 09:47, Dave G4UGM wrote:
Mark,

   Traditional 9-track tapes are always written block-by block with a "short"
gap between the records, WikiPedia say 0.6" for 1600BPI which sounds about
right. From what I remember as tapes are not the most reliable medium the
process was to have the read head after the write head so the tape could be
read and checked as it was written. If an error was returned the "system"
would backspace, erase the bad block to create a "long gap" and the try
again. Looking at the first MAN page for TAR I found it says it writes
20x512 byte blocks so 10K blocks, i.e. about 6.4" long. That means a "waste"
of 10% of the tape in gaps, assuming the tape is perfect.  You can write
longer blocks but then the amount of wastage when you write a bad block goes
up.

I don't think it really is that you have a long gap when you rewrite a "bad" block per se. But you get long gaps when you stop/start. And a rewrite implies that you will get a stop/start situation. But in case you already were going stop/start, the gap will not be extended any longer.

You want to stream the tape, meaning you both get short gaps, and also much higher transfer rates, as the stop/start really cause the tape to be slow. But for streaming mode to work, you need to feed data to the tape fast enough. And with that, I mean that when one block operation is finished, the command for the next one needs to happen very quickly, or else the tape will need to stop.

This also means that you do not always have a short gap with an error free tape. The gap size depends on whether the tape was running at speed or not, when the write starts.

So I guess to answer your question. Operating systems and tools expect a
block level interface to tapes. You need to duplicate this in your
interface.

Yes. Just as systems expects a block level interface to disks.
The "stream of bytes" concept is in many cases an artificial construct handled by the OS (Unix), and not the hardware.

        Johnny


Dave

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Blair
Sent: 10 June 2015 08:34
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Subject: Pertec Tape Drive Interface Musings

I was looking at a couple of documents describing the Pertec tape
interface;
the manual for my Kennedy 9610 tape drive, and a nice reference by a
fellow
with a rather familiar name:

     http://www.sydex.com/pertec.html

According to my Kennedy manual, issuing a read command causes the drive
to return one block of data. I can see how that would be used in block-
oriented applications in which blocks may be randomly read, written and
re-
written on the tape. But most of my magtape experience has been using the
tapes in a streaming mode, such as when reading/writing one or more tar
archives separated by file marks.

When writing a tar archive on a magtape from a Unix system, is the archive
written as a sequence of fixed-size blocks? Or is the entire tar archive
effectively written as one continuous block which must be streamed with no
repositioning?

I'm curious because I'm daydreaming about how to build a tape drive
interface controller, and I wonder whether it might need to potentially
stream an entire tape in one go vs. being able to safely assume some
maximal block size.

--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <n...@nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/




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