On 2015-09-21 19:20, Paul Koning wrote:

On Sep 21, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Johnny Billquist <b...@update.uu.se> wrote:
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I suppose you could on a Pro, since that had its own particularly disgusting 
junk controller.  But I haven't seen RX50 formatting there.  My impression was 
that they came factory formatted, with the DEC-specific 10 sector per track 
format.

Ugh! The PRO controller probably was weird enough to not allow you, even though 
as far as I understand, it was also way more primitive than MSCP.

Way more primitive is a polite way of putting it.  Just like all other PRO 
controllers DEC ever built, it uses programmed I/O.  The curious thing is that 
the PRO bus actually appears to support DMA, but it was never used, not even 
for the hard drive or network interface.  All those devices do I/O to on-card 
memory, and then the driver has to move it to/from host memory.

DECs various decisions related to the PRO are probably a mystery to all.

I haven't tried this, but the PRO technical manual (on Bitsavers) shows that 
(a) there is no way to do formatting, but (b) you can configure the controller 
to accept, for reading but not writing, various non-RX50 formats.

Interesting. I haven't even tried digging that deep into the documentation. If I ever found the drivers for the hardisk and floppy for P/OS I could possibly consider trying to build something more purely RSX-like, but I doubt that will happen.

        Johnny

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