On 10/11/15 6:19 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Brent Hilpert <hilp...@cs.ubc.ca <mailto:hilp...@cs.ubc.ca>> wrote:

    On 2015-Oct-10, at 8:44 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
    . . .

    Note that the "+13V" supply must also be present, and it's
    generated and referenced on the Mains side of everything.

    In summary, for the relay to activate:

            1) The Mains is rectified and filtered to produce Mains
    +300V via bridge LNS-CR1 and caps LNS-C1,C2.

            2) MOB-D1,D2,R1,R2 form a voltage divider / balancing
    network to produce Mains +150VDC.
                They also balance the voltage across the Mains filter
    caps (LNS-C1,C2) when in 220VAC mode.

    **      3) Mains +150V is regulated via MOB-R3, BIB-Q6, BIB-C4,
    BIB-D11 to produce Mains +13V, referenced
                from MOB-D2 feeding ("START-UP DRIVE") the base of BIB-Q6.
                16V zener BIB-D12 additionally clamps this level.

            4) Mains +13V supplies 555 oscillator BIB-E2, LM393
    comparator BIB-E3b and associated circuitry. These form a SMPSU
    with MOB-T1.

            5) The output from MOB-T1 is half-wave rectified in both
    polarities to produce BIB +12V (MOB-D6,C3) and BIB -15V
    (MOB-R4,R5,R6,D4,C2,D5).

            6) BIB +12V produces BIB +5V via regulator BIB-E1.

            7) BIB-E3a forms a voltage level sensor with reference
    zener BIB-D13 and voltage divider BIB-R3,R4,R27 that must detect
    an adequate level on
                 the Mains +300V to turn on the relay via BIB-Q11,
    BIB-E5, BIB-E4a.

    LNS  = Line Supply section      PDF.146
    MOB = Motherboard                       PDF.162
    BIB = Bias & Interface Board    PDF.166-168

    ** There appears to be something inconsistent in the schematic
    here in that the base of BIB-Q6 is fed by +10V from MOB-D2, which
    would leave the Mains +13V at more like +8V.

    Am I missing something? - is there anywhere in that doc that
    explicitly declares the association between the 2-dozen
    connectors, for example, that Line Supply P1 & P2 connect to
    Motherboard J5 & J4, and that Bias and Interface Board J1 & J2
    connect to Motherboard J7 & J6?


Awesome, thanks for the detailed writeup. Things make sense, or at least more sense.

I went to take a look at the +13V supply and of *course* once I did things started working, mysteriously. The relay clicks over and I get +13V and it looks like the bias voltages are present as well. All I did was tack on a wire to the 10/L header pins on the bias/interface board (+13V)...

So that's... good, but I have no idea what the actual problem is/was. Going to clean the connectors and look for cold solder joints (again :)) just to rule that out. I'll get a dummy load hooked up and see if anything happens when I throw the front panel switch.

Thanks again, all.

- Josh


Re-inspection revealed no cold solder joints, but I reflowed the backplane connector pins on the Bias/Interface board pins L and 10 anyway. I reassembled everything in the chassis, hooked up a dummy load and everything came up fine. Reinstalled the CPU boardset + terminator and I get the Console chevron prompt after a couple of seconds and the built-in diagnostic tests pass. So, success, of a sort. I feel like I cheated somehow :). We'll see if it keeps working...

Now to figure out mass storage; I have an SMD controller and a drive -- let's find out if either of them work :).

Thanks again for the analysis and advice, I'm slowly figuring things out but I think I really need to sit down one of these days and really study power supply electronics.

- Josh

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