On 04/07/2016 4:41 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
Does this warning assume that there is something on Vin, and not open?
With a quick look at the internal schematic of an old-school 7805, it
seems like what Bill suggests (leaving Vin open) will not actually do
much.

--
Will
This warning is for someone who is thinking of adding a large filter capacitor (>10ufd) on the output of the 78XX device and the manufacturer is warning against this. Typically the reason is when the input power drops below 2VDC above the ouput (power removed) then the device can conduct backwards to ground - if you provide enough current it will probably self destruct.

To me it is simple, the manufacturer says don't do it as you will damage the device. That is enough for me. If you want to check the internal die design you can see why this is so.

John :-#(#
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:23 PM, John Robertson <j...@flippers.com> wrote:
On 04/07/2016 2:18 PM, Bill Sudbrink wrote:
drlegendre wrote:
Not saying it's going to smoke-out, but it does
seem like a wonky thing to do.
I disagree about "wonky" let me try with more
diagram and less English:

    (+8)
      |
   VIN|    ceramic cap
      |-----][-----
   ___|____       |
   | 7805 |----------GROUND
   --------       |
      |           |
VOUT|(+5)       |
      |           |
   ___|____       |
   | LOAD |-------|
   --------

+8 is not currently available (no pun intended).
I would like to test LOAD without removing 7805
as it is soldered in place.  Is damage to 7805
likely if alternative regulated current is applied
at (+5) and (+8) is left open?

Bill S.



Yes, you can damage the 7805 - READ the data sheets...

Raising the Output Voltage above the Input Voltage:

Since the output of the device does not sink current, forcing

LM340/LM78MXX Series 3-Terminal Positive Regulators LM340/LM78MXX Series
3-Terminal Positive Regulators

the output high can cause damage to internal low current paths in a manner
similar to that just described in the “Short- ing the Regulator Input”
section.


LM340/LM78MXX Series 3-Terminal Positive Regulato John :-#(#


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