The only ones worth using that I'm aware of are Scream Tracker and Impulse
Tracker and neither was around in the 16 bit ISA days pre-386, IIRC. I
doubt Scream Tracker would be able to function on a 286 anyhow. It puts a
486DX2/66 at about 50% CPU load, from my recollection. The Amiga trackers
were more efficient, but you got fewer channels, too. OctaMED was
8-channel and that seemed massive until it wasn't.

IT was VGA but I think Scream Tracker was a 50 line text mode or something. I guess it depends if Scream Tracker used protected mode. Hmm intarnet says 386s were out during 1990 which was the year the more popular Scream Tracker was released. I swear my friend was playing coma.s3m on his Northgate 286-16 via PC Speaker....

Several made it there over the years. I can't remember which ones, but I
do remember one day I was listening to Nectarine Radio and heard one of my
own Protracker MODs. That was awesome.

Awesome!

Ahhh, those air-car-mounted-on-hydraulics "ride" thingys? Huh. Laser disc
was always a cool thing, too. Remember "Time Traveler" ? That
"holographic" (it wasn't really but it looked damn cool) game were the
characters appeared in front of some kind of curved mirror volumetric
display uhm, thingamabob? It used a Laserdisc too. Of course I loved Space
Ace and Dragons Lair along with every other self-respecting geek, too.
Also, my favorite was called "Thayer's Quest" in which you were a wizard's
apprentice.

Yes. There is an arcade in Chicago called Galloping Ghost which has both of the Sega holographic machines, and some of the laserdisc games like Space Ace and Dragons Lair. In the arcade world, due to the unreliability of the laserdisc players often used in games like Dragons Lair (it uses a real HeNe laser tube!) it's okay for people to move them to the MS-DOS Daphne replacement system and such. Normally MAME/emulation is frowned upon by collectors but the LD games get an okay. The way they work is amusing, the game board drives the LED score and just watches for joystick directions and sends the chapter skip commands via RS-232 or RS-422 to the serial port equipped commercial LD player in the cabinet. Pretty simple but legendary.

Most commercial real estate weasels think you are the next "sucker" coming
through the door. They seem to believe that some old crufty warehouse
that's been empty for a decade is actually worth the ridiculous rents they
charge. You'd think it'd be better to have the buildings occupied and
someone giving you a bit or two to cover the property taxes, but they
still don't seem to see their clients as anything more than walking cash
registers. It's definitely a hard slog to find a screaming deal on space.
All the hacker-spaces here in big-D have lots of folks pitching in to make
ends meet. The first one here with an Ethan-style laser arcade will
definitely get my membership dues.

Hah awesome!

Then there is the problem that nobody but old dudes remember how fun/cool
arcades could be, back in a time when they looked a lot more like
nightclubs. I remember them so crowded you had to go out for some fresh
air. Flynn's Arcade may never live again, but it's still a paradigm of
cool in my mind. Then again, I'm probably too old now to adjudicate "cool"
for anyone. If you do open an laser-illuminated LED-walled arcade, let us
all know so we can put you on the cctalk road-trip map. We'll rent a bus
in Seattle, and drive to your place (or visa versa). I nominate Fred to
run the logistics. I'll drive. :-P

I help with an event each year called MAGFest which is currently in the DC area. We had 278 arcade cabinets in the arcade room and a decent deployment of classic computers in the museum. The attendance is 20,000 people or so -- it's a large event. Much of it is video game music related, and there is a ton of history and classic computer tie ins there. All the synth chips all the machines. The event is an insane amount of work though, I think it was 14 26' penske trucks some of which made 3 trips full of arcade cabinets, and the computer museum stuff occupied 2/3rds of a truck and was all owned by 3 people (just their personal stash.) No big metal mostly plastic micros but it's all hands on.

There is a big arcade event in Seattle / Tacoma that has 450+ games, and there is CAX in California which just happened that has a large collection. They have a lot more people with lower numbers of games from what I understand where MAGFest has a handful of collectors with very large collections.

There is definitely interest in the retro computer stuff growing outside of the age group the reminisces about it. There is also some cross over I think between the arcade and classic computer (plastic micro) crowd.


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Ethan O'Toole

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