On 10/31/16 3:26 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
On Oct 31, 2016, at 2:58 PM, jim stephens <jwsm...@jwsss.com> wrote:

If you cared about not erasing the drive manufacture's data on sealed media 
Winchester and the like you have to avoid any writes to cylinder 0 at all.

The drive formatting software could read that cylinder track 0 for a defect 
map.  Nothing to stop you from overwriting it, but you would then need to do a 
local media certification that is more complicated than just formatting the 
drive, and mapping out defective tracks / sectors.

I never worked with a system that had a controller or software that could read 
the defect track, so don't know how that was used.  Later drives with more 
intelligence in the drive are another matter, but in those cases, the hiding of 
the defect data can be a task assigned to that processor, and don't need magic 
handling of the addressing.
I haven't seen drives that put the defect data on track 0.  DEC put it at the 
very end of the drive (see DEC Std 144).  And as I recall, CDC did likewise in 
the 844 drives (RP04 lookalikes).  As for software using that data, RSTS 
certainly did.

        paul

But its not done (defect mapping) on floppies. defects on floppies are a media or drive issue. Also drive that grind away track 000 usually have enough gunk on the head to take out other tracks.

Allison


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