On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 08:56:09AM +1100, Guy Dunphy wrote: > Resend, just in case that screen-cap image attachment fails. It is also here: > http://everist.org/6F2a/cctalk_rcvd.png > > >Will require > >some way to compare mailboxes in search of pattern in missing > >emails... Which may or may not be obvious... which will lead to more > >puzzles... oy maybe I should have stayed muted and let others do the > >job... > > Here's one check. See attached screen-cap of cctalk emails. Usually many per > day, but only one per day on the 15th & 16th Nov, none at all on the 17th. > Did the list actually go silent then? It's possible by random ebb and flow, > or maybe everyone was in shock over the awful Paradise fire death toll. > Which may be over 1000, unless a lot of people listed as missing do turn up.
Ok, here is a c-pasted fragment from my mutt's index view, limited to messages from cctalk & cctech (which hopefully shows what I expect). The first column is message number in my mailbox, they are not consecutive because in between I got messages from other mailing lists and spammers): 3091 O Nov 13 Jon Elson via c ( 10) Re: Font for DEC indicator panels 3092 Nov 13 systems_glitch ( 60) Re: Looking for optical grid mouse pad 3106 O Nov 13 Jason Howe via ( 22) Re: Swap clarification (Was: bill was my 3166 O Nov 14 systems_glitch ( 40) Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440) 3173 O Nov 14 Bill Degnan via ( 48) Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440) 3192 O Nov 14 Ethan Dicks via ( 28) Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuildi 3196 O Nov 14 William Sudbrin ( 15) RE: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440) 3208 O Nov 14 Eric Smith via ( 17) Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuildi 3216 O Nov 14 allison via cct ( 70) Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuildi 3227 Nov 14 ED SHARPE via c ( 5) The fundamental building block of modern 3229 O Nov 14 Ethan Dicks via ( 17) Re: TU58 tape formatter (was Re: rebuildi 3277 Nov 14 Kevin Bowling v ( 10) HP 88780B density 3388 O Nov 15 Noel Chiappa vi ( 19) Re: Font for DEC indicator panels 3473 O Nov 16 Andrew Luke Nes ( 75) Re: early ANSI C drafts, pre-1989 standar 3816 O Nov 18 Toby Thain via ( 39) Re: Font for DEC indicator panels 3835 O Nov 18 Jerome H. Fine ( 137) Re: RT-11 DY install 3845 O Nov 18 Michael Brutman ( 40) VCF PNW 2019: Exhibitors needed! 3887 O Nov 19 Patrick Finnega ( 6) IBM 3270 Emulation Adapter (ISA) 3889 O Nov 18 jim stephens vi ( 26) Re: IBM 3270 Emulation Adapter (ISA) 3940 O Nov 19 Jim Brain via c ( 10) IND 3944 O Nov 19 Al Kossow via c ( 20) Re: IBM 3270 Emulation Adapter (ISA) 3953 Nov 19 dwight via ccta ( 9) What is windoes doing? 3954 Nov 19 Ethan via cctal ( 11) Re: What is windoes doing? 3965 Nov 19 geneb via cctal ( 27) Re: What is windoes doing? 3989 Nov 19 Bill Degnan via ( 40) Re: What is windoes doing? 3997 Nov 19 Alan Perry via ( 25) Removing PVA from a CRT 3999 Nov 19 Peter Coghlan v ( 17) Re: What is windoes doing? 4041 Nov 19 Alan Perry via ( 50) Re: Removing PVA from a CRT 4046 O Nov 19 jim stephens vi ( 38) Re: IND 4052 Nov 19 Sean Conner via ( 19) IEFBR14 (was Re: IND) 4053 O Nov 19 Sven Schnelle v ( 17) Re: HP-Apollo 9000/425t RAM 4054 O Nov 19 Dennis Boone vi ( 14) Re: IND 4066 Nov 19 dwight via ccta ( 25) Re: What is windoes doing? 4071 O Nov 19 dwight via ccta ( 45) Re: What is windoes doing? 4083 O Nov 19 Al Kossow via c ( 12) Battery warning in Falco terminals 4088 O Nov 19 Al Kossow via c ( 16) Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals 4095 O Nov 19 Eric Smith via ( 15) Re: IEFBR14 (was Re: IND) 4100 Nov 19 Alan Perry via ( 32) Re: Removing PVA from a CRT 4102 Nov 19 Alan Perry via ( 83) Re: Removing PVA from a CRT 4103 O Nov 19 ben via cctalk ( 19) Re: IEFBR14 (was Re: IND) 4113 O Nov 19 Douglas Taylor ( 11) Missing FORRTL 4118 O Nov 19 Jon Elson via c ( 10) Re: IND 4122 O Nov 19 Kevin McQuiggin ( 16) Re: IND A quick comparison by eye, you seem to miss for example msg no 3277 and 4083: no 3277: -- From: Kevin Bowling via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> -- To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> -- Subject: HP 88780B density I have a dual density 88780B. Is it possible to upgrade to quad density by acquiring/swapping boards? Or does someone have an 800bpi 9-track on SCSI Incan borrow or buy? I have a pair of 1984 pdp11/70 UNIX SysV (R0, R1?) tapes that need to be archived. Regards, Kevin ---- and no 4083: -- From: Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> -- To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> -- Subject: Battery warning in Falco terminals I've been helping the MAME guys simulate a TS-2624, which is a block mode HP emulating terminal. I had bought this a while ago, and never dumped the firmware. Unfortunately there is a large NiCd battery right in the middle of the board that leaked all over. I've taken some pictures which are up under falco on bitsavers. If anyone has one of these, you want to do battery mitigation ASAP. I'm in the middle of replacing every socket on the board since they were all within range of the leakage corrosion. Also, I suspect the first generation of terminals all have similar hardware with different firmware, so if someone has any of the other models (TS-1, etc.) we could get them simulated pretty easily once the firmware is dumped. ---- I have no idea why they would have got dumped. As far as I can tell, the network guys are busy keeping the wire running, and do not care about spam (i.e. not filtering other people's mails, they are not being paid for this). Did it ever occured to you to be forcibly unsubscribed from mailing list because delivering soft complained emails minded to you could not had been delivered? Such a thing happened to me few times, and then I discovered that particular list's mail server was being located on Iceland (unless I am compressing old memories). Which is rather close to Poland, but still not close enough for touchy touchy software. After checking traceroutes I can see ping times double while jumping from one building in Singapore to another one (maybe not very near, but still, this should be same city). Perhaps there are sometimes problems with contacting your mail provider, and email goes to redundant mail server, from where it is never delivered (for whatever reason). And if they configured it in such a way that redundant one drops old mails as new ones keep coming, without alerting, then this could go on and on - once your missing mail goes off road, it can never go back (for whatever reason) and after spending some time there is silently dropped. Just my wet phantasies about how such things work or might work. It only requires one lousy admin to make it true, or a good one fired and never to be heard from again. Perhaps asking your ISP could give you some clues. Perhaps this is even more horrific (micro black holes? aliens tuning in?) and wetter than my wettest dreams. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **