On 1/12/19 11:39 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 1/12/19 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+, /53, /73, /83, and /93 in
either a BA23 or a BA123.  I have an actual badged BA23 pedestal for
my /23+.
I'm fairly certain all microPDP-11/23+ systems were only sold in BA23
boxes, and I think microPDP-11/73 and the later, cheaper, cut-down 11/53
were as well.  But almost all the 11/83 systems I've ever seen were in
BA123 boxes, though they did sell some in BA23 pedestals - I've got one.

One confusing part of this.  Everything I have read today
seems to say that the only difference between the 11/73
and the 11/83 in a MicroPDP-11 was the memory used.
QBUS = 11/73
PMI = 11/83

I use this guide in general - http://web.frainresearch.org:8080/projects/pdp-11/dcj11.php to understand the key differences in DEC DCJ11 implementations. You can see how the clock speed, caching and memory type drove differences in performance and marketing labels.

The 11/83 (M8190-AD or AE) with Non-PMI memory is just a slow 11/83 in my view. I know RT11 did report it as an 11/73.   It could be that from a software perspective, RT11 might not be possible to determine the actual module in use.

Does the 2MB 11/93 not work with and extra 2Mb of QBUS Non-PMI memory?  I would have thought the upper 2MB would still be addressable, if for nothing else than for compatibility memory mapped display controllers and such.

   Jerry








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