One of the machines I have still has it's permanent license (along with the pretty paper license) for the OS.  It's all the auxiliary packages you need to do anything useful that are going to be the headache.

--Jason

On 3/7/20 9:27 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

On Mar 7, 2020, at 9:07 AM, John H. Reinhardt 
<johnhreinha...@thereinhardts.org> wrote:

On 3/7/2020 8:10 AM, Zane Healy wrote:
On Mar 7, 2020, at 5:00 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org 
<mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
Well that's sad news. Since VMS Software may or may not ever launch a
proper hobbyist program and has stated that they don't have the ability to
issue licenses for VAX versions of VMS, that means we have until 2021 to
legally use VMS on the vintage hardware or emulations. After that, I guess
we will have to either sail the seven seas or learn to love 4.3BSD...

Mike
If VSI doesn’t have the ability to issue VAX versions of the VMS license, will 
it be possible to buy VAX licenses?  I’m curious as about five years ago, I had 
to help buy VAX/VMS licenses for a project.
Zane
On the HECnet list, David Moylan had sent an inqujiry to the OpenVMS Customer 
Lab and got this as a response

"  Users who wish to avail of HPE OpenVMS long term licenses are encouraged to

  purchase permanent licenses at standard prices. You may contact [Fellman, Jon]

  <jon.fell...@hpe.com> for the same."


So this HP person, Jon Fellman looks like the person to ask about buying an OpenVMS VAX 
license.  I've sent him an email but I don't expect a response until Monday at least.  
The "standard prices" part doesn't' look encouraging.

--
John H. Reinhardt
The thing is, most people don’t know they need a real VAX/VMS license, until they find themselves doing something that will require it at some point in the future. It’s not a normal need, but it is one I’ve seen. I sure can’t justify buying any right now.

Zane


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