I know where you are coming from. Starting out as an FE I was only
initially trained in assembler - specifically to trace each instruction
through the machine for troubleshooting! My first database was written
in ART418 (Assembler for Real Time/ Univac 418 :-))Later I learned C and
used it to do any real programming.
When the 'big iron' computer industry was taken over by the peecee, I
went into teaching ECE at college. For 25 years I was always trying to
teach my students efficiency in coding - especially important until the
latter years in embedded systems.
Now even embedded systems are running with gigahertz clock speeds! Over
my career I have seen the change from three assembler courses in a
six-semester program to just one 'so they can get their hands wet'!
In the end, when asked 'why do we have to learn this?' I ended up just
saying "When embedded systems start displaying really weird problems in
a worldwide installed base, some knowledge of assembler may be the only
way to fix it. People who can will be the first to be hired and the
last to go if a company down-sizes! Even when teaching C I showed them
how to get down and understand the assembler in the debugger.
I am retired from teaching now now and write in C and SQL :-) One day I
will do some PDP-11 assembler just for old time's sake on my PiDP-11!
cheers,
Nigel
On 22/05/2020 08:06, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 5/22/20 2:56 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote:
Now that is really cool. Good old MS
In '83 I was working for DEC and had access to things like BASIC+.
I was amazed at what they could do on a micoprocessor.
In my early days :-) I was given a project to develop programs
for an LSI-11/02 with 28KW of memory and RX02 8" floppies. I
got the project because the mainframe programmers I worked with
did not believe anything serious could be done in a machine that
small. I developed programs that later e\went production using
MACRO-11, Pascal, Fortran and COBOL. I doubt the products of
modern computer science education could duplicate what I did.
Efficiency is no longer a consideration. Just throw more hardware
at the problem.
bill
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