On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Would the 68K have succeeded if it were not for Apple and Commodore?

Without your engineering expertise, I would still say, "YES".
(I was reading Infoworld, etc., as compared to you designing the machines)


Before we heard anything about Apple picking it, and before any sort of announcements of such, the first that I ever heard about the 68000 was, "Hey! check this out! This is gonna be the BEST 16 bit processor. I hope that somebody builds a machine around it SOON. Anybody who wants to design THE BEST machine from scratch, rather than just add kludges on top of kludges would have to use it. 'Course, they'd have to re-write all the software from scratch, and that would make it slow to get market share."


The Intel approach of each one being based closely on the previous meant that the 5150 had software VERY fast. For example, Wordstar was up and running in weeks, but then was delayed while the user manual got rewritten. Supercalc was very soon.

OTOH, when the Lisa, and then Mac, came out, Apple was smart enough to provide basic software. I heard a story at the time that it was ordained that "the Mac will be shipped with FOUR software packeages", but that the four ended up finally being MacWrite, MacPaint, MacWrite, and MacPaint. Third party software took much longer than it had for the 5150, because it had to be written, not just patched from a previous iteration.


'Course, the 6502 marketing of "First one's free" sort of made it almost inevitable for homebrew bootstrap such as Apple1 and Apple2.


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