Hi Chuck,

The drive is a Qume Qumetrak 242 so I assume soft sector? I'm open to
correction.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 4:15 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Sep 2023, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I just bought a very clean, DSDD 8" disk drive off eBay and it has a 50p
> > connector which I guess is the common Shugart type? I also found a 50p->
> > 34p adaptor PCB design someone documented online.
>
> very few of the lines need to be rearraanged, so you can just twist a few
> wires in a cable.  One exception is that if you need the TG43 signal for
> writing, then you will need additional circuitry.
>
> > I haven't delved much into floppy formats (high level or low level) but
> I'm
> > somewhat familiar with filesystems from FAT12. My ultimate goal is to
> > create an open-source USB adaptor that reads/writes the contents of an 8"
> > disk but presents itself to an OS as a Mass Storage Device (block
> device).
> > Is such a thing possible?
>
> Sure.  Ine the very early days of external USB floppies, there existed a
> rare few in which the circuitry was a general purpose FDC.  All currently
> produced ones are locked in to only supporting a couple of PC 3.5"
> formats.  Look for "mode 3", which is support for the NEC format, which is
> compatible with 8" formats, IFF you can modify the hardware to work.
>
> > I once created a terrible custom format for storing data on a flash chip
> > which required no low-level format, but I expect a magnetic disk needs
> > headers/trailers to know when a track starts/stops so it can skip around.
>
> Yes.  It is called "IBM format", but that is confusing, since it is
> talking about the track structure that IBM designed (3740?), NOT about IBM
> PC (which does use that structure)
>
> > I checked out the KyroFlux website and it seems there are dozens of
> formats
> > that were used for 8" disks - is there a favorite format among the
> > community that allows full use of a 1.2MB 8" disk?
>
> Not everybody will agree, but, . . .
> NEC modified their 3.5" drives to be 360RPM, same as their 5.25" 1.2M
> drives, and 8" drives.  Thus, they used the same format on all three
> sizes!
>
> http://www.xenosoft.com/fmts.html#8
>
>
> --
> Grumpy Ol' Fred                 ci...@xenosoft.com
>

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