Hi Chuck,

Lou did reach out to me and shared a copy of his document. (If you read
this Lou, thank you!) I haven't yet, but I plan to go through it and learn
(I know I will) lots of good stuff. I did come across the thread you
mention with your spreadsheet and I also plan to make good use of it. Thank
you for sharing it in that thread!

I have an RD32 drive that has been working fine, but recently developed
some sort of problem that now prevents me from even formatting it.
It starts out just fine, encounters a couple of bad blocks and then stalls
the formatting process. I have another drive that isn't DEC standard so
that's where patching of ZRQCH0 on my XXDP tape comes into place. I'm
guessing you're right, I may have to abandon the idea of using the
real drives and get something like a Qbone or something. Is there such a
thing as an MFM drive emulator that would plug in to the RQDX3 as
a real drive would?

Back in the 80's I came close to getting an 11/23 with a couple of RL02
drives and I think some RX-drives as well. Probably a tape drive too. But
unfortunately it fell through. So this is an attempt to get to tinker with
the real thing. I love the SIMH simulator suite but for some reason, missing
the hardware takes away a big part of tinkering for me. So I am enjoying
having these 11/23+ boards and drives to tinker with now.

Thank you for all the information, tips and pointers!

-Peter

On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 1:55 AM Charles Dickman via cctalk <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Search the list back in late 2018, there is a thread with the same subject.
>
> There is a link to a spreadsheet in that thread that has the calculations
> for new drive sizes.
>
> Lou and I sort of worked out the details without knowledge of each other
> and he had a nice document describing how to create a new entry in the
> table. He seemed reluctant to share it at the time, so I will respect that
> now.
>
> I was interested in modifying the tables so that I could create a maximum
> sized disk to use with an MFM disk emulator.
>
> Congratulations if you have an MFM drive that you think is reliable enough
> today to format and try to use. The central theme of the RQDX3 format is
> bad block replacement, and you will probably need it.
>
> Based on the reliability of the drive, a portion of the drive is allocated
> to bad block replacement. One sector per track (?) is reserved for in-track
> replacement and a group of tracks are allocated for out-of-track
> replacement. The space allotted for replacements is inconsistent, for
> example the RD51 has room for 0.66% of the blocks to fail vs. the RD33
> which can only tolerate 0.19% block failure rate. The replacement block
> locations are based on a hash. The only place I have seen the replacement
> algorithm documented is in an Ultrix driver for the microVAX 2000 (?). This
> would make a sector image of an RQDX3 drive very difficult to work with
> unless it is connected to another RQDX3 or the replacement map is
> understood.
>
> Is Lou around? I hope so, he refined a PDP-8/e memory board design I did
> and built multiple copies. That phrase used to imply moving on to some
> other hobby, but lately these old computer lists it's become past on. Ugh.
>
> -chuck
>
> If the original author is no longer available to ask I can contribute my
> copy to bitsavers. This has been a topic of discussion for many years. I
> doubt DEC/Compaq/HP cares anymore.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 5:34 PM Glen Slick via cctalk <
> [email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Did Lou ever publish somewhere his notes on patching ZRQCH0?
> >
> > Back from around almost 10 years ago:
> >
> >
> >
> https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/patching-zrqch0-to-use-any-geometry-mfm-hard-disk-on-rqdx3.39318/
> >
> > Is Lou still around? Looks like he hasn't posted on VCFed in a few years.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 11:45 AM Jacob Ritorto via cctalk
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't have the source, but I had great success octal-patching my
> copy a
> > > few years ago, made it work with a Maxtor xt-11something instead of the
> > > real rd54 / xt-2190.
> > > I'll reply again if I can find the instructions for doing it.  Just
> > > followed recipe from some guy's website and it worked perfect.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 at 09:20, Peter Ekstrom via cctalk <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have the source for the ZRQCxx formatter? I have found a
> > pdf
> > > > for ZRQCE0 but am curious if the actual source code for that one, or
> > ZRQCH0
> > > > is available? I'd like to make some changes to the UIT table.
> > > >
> > > > -Peter
> > > >
> >
>

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