> On Mar 13, 2025, at 3:28 PM, ben via cctalk <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 2025-03-13 12:24 p.m., Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
>> One FPGA will easily do a VLIW sequencer + scalar mills (one or more, memory 
>> / MAC assemblies) or a simple processor
> 
> When it works.
> I see lots low cost Chinese FPGA cards, so that is valid option.
> 
>> Something like https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005779045608.html 
>> provides a wholly adequate platform for a microcoded processor, with lots of 
>> 3v3 IO for external logic analysis inputs
> 
> They goofed on that, 3 volt transistor logic is negative. :)

Depends on which one.  RTL was 3.6 volts positive, as far as I can remember.  I 
actually have a keyboard that has some of those devices in it.  Yes, ECL is 
around 3 volts also but negative supply.  And of course some people designed 
systems with positive supplies but "negative" logic, in the sense that ~0 volts 
is logic 1 while near-VCC is logic 0; the CDC 6000 series machines are an 
example.

FPGAs come in amazing sizes if you have sufficient money.  I hope some day to 
cram an entire CDC 6600 into an FPGA.  The main problem with this isn't FPGA 
sizes (by today's standards, an upper-midrange FPGA can do the job, memory 
included) but rather the creation of an accurate model given the bizarre and 
hairy timing of that machine.  I have a gate level model, but it doesn't work 
yet because of those issues.

        paul

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