Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:

> Robert Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
> 
> > I asked this before a few years ago but didn't come to a firm conclusion. 
> > The two parts are shown in this picture: 
> > https://rjarratt.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/img_20231221_112305.jpg
> > 
> > They are from a VT100 Monitor board. There is no schematic for my version 
> > of the board, but a related schematic is on p58 of this schematic: 
> > https://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal/vt100/MP00633_VT100_Schematic_Feb82.pdf.
> >  They are labelled Q414 and CR406, but the Feb 82 revision uses a different 
> > board and those two parts are in TO-220 packages rather than TO-3 as here..
> > 
> > I have removed both of them and tested them with a DMM. Neither of them 
> > measure as two diodes, they do not measure open circuit in any direction, 
> > so either they are both faulty or they are not transistors (unlikely). I 
> > have found a spec for a 2SB411 at 
> > https://alltransistors.com/transistor.php?transistor=10279. This seems to 
> > be a germanium transistor. When I last asked about this I had a 
> > conversation with Tony Duell, who was very sceptical that these could be 
> > germanium transistors, so naturally I am very doubtful that they are 2SB411 
> > transistors. However, in the schematic Q414 is shown as NPN, the 2SB411 is 
> > PNP and this seems to match the way the part is connected on my board 
> > (Collector to HORIZ GND). I am working on a reverse engineered schematic.
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me what these components are so I can find a datasheet for 
> > them? Better still a suggested replacement would be really helpful, 
> > especially if they are 2SB411s because they seem to be hard to find.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Rob
> 
> 
> I don't think that it where a bigger problem to change them against
> similar powerful TO220 PNPs. The cooling isn't existent or only has a
> small heat sink so that the allowed 40W power loss arent used anyways.
> TO220 Transistors fit easyly on TO3 Footprints.
> 
> Regards,
> Holm
> 
> -- 

An old friend of mine wrote me a mail, since his mails to cctalk seems
to go to nowhere andsuggested to forward (and translate) this

In the bitsaver schematic Q414 is a fat BU407 power transistor and must
be, since it has to resist high inductive voltage spikes, there for the
inverse diode.
He thinks that the transistor is a RCA411 and no 2SB ..it would fit
better there. Probably ore cheap would be a BU407 (reichelt.de 95 cent).

I would use an BU508D in TO247 / TOP3P housing, it contains the revere
diode.. but none of them is PNP...

Regards,
Holm

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