On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 04:40:53AM +0200, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2026 at 04:05:52PM -0700, r.stricklin via cctalk wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sep 23, 2026, at 3:37 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk 
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > However, looking from certain point of view, Keigo was polite. I
> > > wonder, how it subscribed to the list? Was it by its own initiative
> > > (volition, if you prefer) or has it acted on somebody's order?
> > 
> > 
> > Speaking only for myself, I don’t care how it occurred or how
> > "polite" it was, I would prefer it were forcibly unsubscribed.
> 
[...]

Oh damn. Some of you certainly remember that I like to respond to myself.

> And of course there are people pouring vitriol on AI, which does not
> make much sense, if you ask me. Want to pour some? Pour it on the
> humans who set up AIs and made them act wrongfully.

I made it sound as if I criticised your stance, but I am not,
really. The above paragraph was not meant to harass you. To each his
own choices.

[...]
> why we are not going to slow down today, so this is it. SHTF, probably
> one day in our life (which, given we have members of advanced age, is
> not very long from now, eh).

But I do not blame our older members, even jokingly. On the contrary
guys, live long and prosper :-) . Chances are, we might be all helped
by new developments in the AI. But somewhere on this road I personally
smell some shit event. I do not mean nukes or WW3. I think we are
going to have few more options. Some worse.

[...]
> [1] What would such discussion look like? I have no idea but I hope I
> would recognize one when I see one. With caveat that we are rather
> late to such talking (20-25, remember?). I assume AI is here to stay,
> no matter if it is real or only marketing invention. It is also going
> to be developed in more and more advanced shape and with more
> unwanted########questionable side effects and uses. I think we are at
> certain limes and after crossing it every and each our favour will be
> returned, because why not?

OTOH, it is one of the Graal that generations of computer user dreamt
of. Too bad its development is not quite in their hands.

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

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