"Egon Willighagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Nina Jeliazkova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The QSAR descriptor classes are just (or should be) just wrappers
> > > around actual functionality... if there is some property for which the
> > > given substructure is interesting to be colored, it should have been
> > > available as separate API anyway...
> >
> > IMHO, this approach can complicate the code. Suppose I am calculating a
> > descriptor, that relies on finding set fragments. As a result, I would
like
> > not only the final (numerical) value, but also the set of fragments (atom
> > and bonds) that had been used in the calculation.  The most elegant
approach
> > will need nothing different than descriptor API;
> 
> The descriptor API just defines how to get to a data matrix with column
names.

data matrix might be extended beyound simple numeric types.

> 
> > it will be rather awkward
> > to peek the internals of the descriptor calculation via separate calls.
> 
> Actually, peeking at the internals is important! CDK is not an end
> product, it's a development library and an educational tool. We don't
> want black boxes.
> 
> > > So, I don't think we should extend the QSAR descriptor API with such
> > > functionality.
> >
> > What about just introducing a class, that will  implement DescriptorResult
> > interface, but will also provide the desired functionality (selected
> > atoms/bonds)? Thus descriptor API will not be extended at all, just the
> > descriptors where "selection" is relevant will return the relevant class.
> 
> I'm against this idea; I really think we should split algorithms from
> descriptors... what you are really interested in, is the outcome of
> some algorithm, not so much the calculated values. The descriptor API
> is about the latter, our convenience black box approach, which is why
> the should only be wrapping. The algorithm, instead, should allow
> peaking at details, such as which *bla* has been used to get to the
> numeric outcome.
> 

Yes, exactly, but relying on nonunified API for different algorithms
complicates the final use of the library. 

No intention for supporting black boxes or flaming!

Nina

> IMO
> 
> Egon





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