On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, gilleain torrance
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This isn't really relevant to fragments as defined in the Murko paper,
> but it could be interesting to fragment ring systems and linkers in
> other ways.
>
> Say we label the rings as A-D. Then you're asking if the ring systems
> should be (A, B, C, D) or (A, (B, C), D) - where B and C are the
> central 5 ring and the phenyl directly attached to it. Seems like
> there are other fragmentations, like ((A, B), C, D) or (A, (B, D), C)
> - where brackets indicate grouping.

Using the Murcko terminology, they are pretty clear that the ring
systems would be A, B, C and D - the single bond between the phenyl
and cyclopentane is considered a zero atom linker and so the two rings
on either side are separate ring systems

Given that a framework is a combination of ring systems and linkers, I
there are quite a few frameworks - (ABCD), (AB) (ABC) (ABD) (CBD)
>
> It might be hard to do, but I could imagine trying to find the
> commonest frameworks like this. Of course, the assumption is that
> linkers are chemically more cleavable, so maybe it doesn't make sense
> to include them in frameworks. Just a thought, anyway.
>
> gilleain
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Rajarshi Guha <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi, I've been debugging some of my code and I could you determine how
>> many frameworks should be identified from
>>
>> C1(c2ccccc2)(CC(CC1)CCc1ccccc1)CC1C=CC=C1
>>
>> I know that that the 6-ring and 5-ring joined by a single bond (zero
>> atom linker) correspond to 2 separate ring systems, but would the
>> combination be a distinct framework?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Pascal Muller
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>>>> If I remember correctly the Murcko framework code in the CDK is broken.
>>>>
>>>> I would be *very* useful if the people interested in this
>>>> functionality could set up (e.g. in the wiki) a set if molecules with
>>>> the expected murcko hits for those molecules...
>>>
>>> Done:
>>> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/cdk/index.php?title=Murcko
>>>
>>> If something need to be modified or corrected, just say it :)
>>>
>>> By the way, I wrote a small script with OpenBabel (pybel actually) for
>>> generating Murcko framework (although not with the same options than
>>> the generateMurckoFragments function).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pascal
>>>
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