No problem,

Your message actually prompted me to get it finished off yesterday so it should 
be available relatively soon. Just trying to think of a name for it now.

J

On 28 Apr 2014, at 08:30, Oscar Mora <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for your message. 
> 
> You are right, the 'AtomTypeAwareSaturationChecker' solves these cases. I'll 
> use it until the new kekulisation process will be ready
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Oscar
> 
> 2014-04-26 20:36 GMT+02:00 John May <[email protected]>:
> Hi Oscar,
> 
> I have an improved kekulisation almost done that handles a lot more cases but 
> it's not ready yet I’m afraid.
> 
> AtomTypeAwareSaturationChecker is probably your best bet but there are known 
> issues with it.
> 
> I thought it might be possible to go via SMILES and use the atom typer to add 
> hydrogens. Unfortunately this doesn’t work as the atom type doesn’t seem to 
> be defined and a hydrogen is added when it should not be.
> 
>> [nH+]1(ccccc1)[O-]
> 
> when it should be
> 
>> [n+]1(ccccc1)[O-]
> 
> 
> J
> 
> On 26 Apr 2014, at 11:03, Oscar Mora <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I am experiencing a problem trying to kekulise a set of molecules with 
>> aromatic rings and atoms with formal charge defined. 
>> 
>> I use CDK 1.5.5 to read and process a set molecules (SDF/Mol). I would like 
>> to kekulise all the aromatic rings in order to transform those bonds which 
>> are specified (mis)using bond order = 4 to an alternate set of bonds with 
>> order 1 and 2. In order to do this I use the tool 'FixBondOrdersTool'. 
>> 
>> I use the same piece of code specified in 
>> http://blueobelisk.shapado.com/questions/detect-aromatic-rings-using-bond-order-4-in-a-sdf-file-with-cdk#answer52299d9597cfef16df00952f
>> 
>>         String input = "C:\\Users\\Oscar\\Desktop\\problem.sdf";
>> 
>>         String output = "C:\\Users\\Oscar\\Desktop\\problem2.sdf";
>> 
>>         IChemObjectBuilder builder = SilentChemObjectBuilder.getInstance();
>> 
>>         IteratingSDFReader sdfr = new IteratingSDFReader(new 
>> FileReader(input),
>>                 builder);
>> 
>>         SDFWriter sdfw = new SDFWriter(new FileWriter(output));
>> 
>>         FixBondOrdersTool fbot = new FixBondOrdersTool();
>> 
>>         while (sdfr.hasNext()) {
>>             IAtomContainer container = sdfr.next();
>> 
>>             AtomContainerManipulator
>>                     .percieveAtomTypesAndConfigureAtoms(container);
>> 
>>             container = fbot.kekuliseAromaticRings(container);
>>             sdfw.write(container);
>>         }
>> 
>>         sdfr.close();
>> 
>>         sdfw.close();
>> 
>> 
>> It works fine in most cases. But I have found that when one of the atoms of 
>> the ring has a formal charge specified in the input SDF/Mol, the 
>> transformation is not performed correctly. Example:
>> 
>> Input molecule:
>> 
>>   7  7  0  0  0  0            999 V2000
>>    -0.2947    3.3589    0.0000 N   0  3  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>     0.4198    2.9464    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>     0.4198    2.1214    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>    -0.2947    1.7089    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>    -1.0091    2.1214    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>    -1.0091    2.9464    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>    -0.2947    4.1839    0.0000 O   0  5  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>   1  2  4  0  0  0  0
>>   1  6  4  0  0  0  0
>>   2  3  4  0  0  0  0
>>   3  4  4  0  0  0  0
>>   4  5  4  0  0  0  0
>>   5  6  4  0  0  0  0
>>   1  7  1  0  0  0  0
>> M  CHG  2   1   1   7  -1
>> M  END
>> $$$$
>> 
>> Processed molecule (using FixBondOrdersTool):
>> 
>> 
>>   CDK     0426141124
>> 
>>   7  7  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0999 V2000
>>    -0.2947    3.3589    0.0000 N   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>     0.4198    2.9464    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>     0.4198    2.1214    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>    -0.2947    1.7089    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>    -1.0091    2.1214    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>    -1.0091    2.9464    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>    -0.2947    4.1839    0.0000 O   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>>   1  2  0  0  0  0  0 
>>   1  6  0  0  0  0  0 
>>   2  3  0  0  0  0  0 
>>   3  4  0  0  0  0  0 
>>   4  5  0  0  0  0  0 
>>   5  6  0  0  0  0  0 
>>   1  7  1  0  0  0  0 
>> M  CHG  1   1   1
>> M  CHG  1   7  -1
>> M  END
>> > <cdk:Title>
>> null
>> 
>> > <cdk:Remark>
>> null
>> 
>> $$$$
>> 
>> As you can see the bond type of the bonds which belong to the ring are 
>> specified with bond order = 0. 
>> 
>> Am I doing something wrong ? How could I manage these cases in order to 
>> obtain a kekulised structure ?
>> 
>> I have attached both SDF files. 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> Oscar 
>> 
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