Lourens Veen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Monday 21 October 2002 16:50, Markus Wagner wrote:
> <snip>
> > This was the first time I really needed help with cdrecord, and I
> > am sure I described my problem detailed enough, so that other
> > people can understand it. Especially the second question should
> > be of great interest, because it reveals some kind of
> > illogicalness.
> 
> Well, as J�rg pointed out, he's very busy, and he gets many emails. 
> He has chosen to deal with this by way of bureaucracy, which is 
> uncommon in the Free software world, but then cdrtools isn't part 
> of that world anyway. At any rate, it works just like any other 
> bureaucracy, you fill out the form 
> 
>(http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/problems.html)
> 
> and hope something happens. Of not, tough luck.

In my eyes there is no excuse for being rude. Not answering mail - ok.
Flaming people because one is too busy - not ok. BTW, writing flames
takes time too. So there is some kind of a contradiction.

> Other, or differently formulated questions, like "Has anything 
> changed with the CD fixating code recently?" will simply be 
> ignored.

I would definitily not ignore this mail, if for example something I
have read in the changelogs comes to my mind.

> J�rg takes care of support, so he makes the rules. 

Well, this post was not to Joerg, but to the mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mailing list is offered to Joerg as a
free service just like it is offered to anybody else on this list.

As an example: The linux kernel mailing list has about 1000 mails per
day and more (yes!). Not a single developer gets angry about that or
accuses anybody of filling his/her mailbox. Aside from one or two bad
mannered individuals they are all very friendly to each other.

For every piece of software I know there is a forum in the internet
for users of this software helping each other.

And you don't need to become a developer to be helpful to others. Just
try and die and - most notably - let others know about your failure or
success! This also makes a mailing list archive a very precious
resource. Just knowing that Version X with Burner Y doesn't work
helps. Users can support each other.

I think Joerg effectively kills this natural tendency with his very
rude answers to any newbie on this list. When I browse through the
archive, for any thread there is a rude answer by Joerg ...

> I don't like them any more than you do, but there's nothing we can
> do about it. Well, we could try and become developers ofcourse, but
> given that there's no documentation of the code, hardly any
> comments, and no support, trying to understand it would be more
> effort than I care to spend on it. Anyway, perhaps you could get
> yourself an ATI All-In-Wonder card and use the Gatos drivers with
> it. Vladimir Dergachev is by far the nicest Free software developer
> I've seen so far...

Or use cdrdao. People are much friendlier to each other over there in
the mailing list.

Regards, Matthias


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