"Thomas Schmitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Joerg Schilling:
> > > It is _impossible_ to do correct backups without additional disk space.
> Giuseppe Corbelli:
> > You say it is necessary to store star archives on a filesystem prior
> > to backup?
>
> It is possible to write archives as sessions
> directly to multi-session media: DVD-R, DVD+R,
> DVD-RW, CD-R, CD-RW.
> As long as one knows the start addresses it
> is easy to read the archives by help of dd.
> This works for afio as well as for star.
>
> Try for example:
>   find . | \
>   afio -oZ - | \
>   cdrskin -v dev=/dev/sr0 -multi -
>

It seems that you missunderstand reliability.

find | archiver

is a grant for inconsistence.

Using tar is gradually better but still not OK.
Do you like software for a toy environment or real reliable solutions?

It makes no sense to discuss religuous aspects like you try to do.
Rather thing abount constraints:

-       Big backups and incrementals do not fit on a single DVD.
        If you really like to use DVDs as media, use star -nultivol

-       Small backups that fit on a DVD easily fit on intermediate disk space.

Note that you first need to think about snapshots anyway and snapshots
need disk space.

Jörg

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