neither am I trying to convince you ... but having a civil discussion of issues and presenting pros and cons with each other is something people do ... you would think that if a logical conclusion is clear to both parties, they can come to an agreement, that one or the other would be convinced? ...
I try not to mimic or mouth off the same things that these politicians do and say, since politics has come a long way to what I personally feel is this bad ... I should be able to think for myself and discuss things in a civil manner ... and if clearly convinced with logic and common sense without being called names, I would accept it? ... no? ... no need to continue otherwise then ... I love political discussions without the name calling obviously ... ________________________________ From: Cesar Lumba <[email protected]> To: CFGG Assoc. *CFGG CFGG <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [DLSHS59] 21st Century Feudalism Aljun, You're entitled to what you think, and I won't try to convince you otherwise. C On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:14 PM, 'Aquilino Alcantara' via Center for Good Governance <[email protected]> wrote: I still think term limits on those govt positions should apply ... cant imagine someone being in that position almost all their lives ... familiarity breeds ... > > >so that's what happens when republicans win ... so what happens when >republicans lose? ... > > > From: Cesar Lumba <[email protected]> >To: CFGG Assoc. *CFGG CFGG <[email protected]> >Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; World-Wide Fil >Alliance <[email protected]>; 62ndforum ><[email protected]>; Archersnook <[email protected]>; >Moonglow <[email protected]>; >"[email protected]" ><[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:09 PM > >Subject: Re: [DLSHS59] 21st Century Feudalism > > > >Aljun, > > >Senators and congresspersons must run for re-election every two or six years. >SC justices can simply thumb their noses at the American people for the rest >of their lives, once appointed. They answer to no one. > > >Besides, the Legislative and Executive branches check each other. Bills that >the Legislative branch passes can be and often are vetoed by the president, >while the Legislature often says no to the president's budget and appointments. > > >As to why the Republicans won by landslide, Democrats got the lion share of >the blame for our dysfunctional government. How did that happen? I know that >you watch Fox News all the time. And I know you must have noticed the >round-the-clock advertising financed by the billionaires (known and unknown) >that demonized the Democratic candidates. > > >This happened in Las Vegas and in the entire United States. > > >The money poured in by the Koches and the unnamed Republican billionaires were >more than enough to pay for all available advertising slots 24 hours a day >during the last few weeks prior to November 4. > > >C > > > > > > > >On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:57 AM, 'Aquilino Alcantara' via Center for Good >Governance <[email protected]> wrote: > >then you should be advocating term limits for congress, should be good as >well? ... >> >> >>tell me about billionaires then ... >> >> >>tell me also about: if legislation by democrats are so good for the country >>and legislation by republicans so bad, why do republicans get elected at all? >>... >> >> >>maybe you should consult lynn for the answer to this question? ... because >>lynn did not answer it as well ... >> >> >> From: Cesar Lumba <[email protected]> >>To: CFGG Assoc. *CFGG CFGG <[email protected]> >>Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; World-Wide Fil >>Alliance <[email protected]>; 62ndforum >><[email protected]>; Archersnook <[email protected]>; >>Moonglow <[email protected]>; >>"[email protected]" >><[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 11:48 AM >>Subject: Re: [DLSHS59] 21st Century Feudalism >> >> >> >>Aljun, >> >> >>It is true that presidents, with the advice and consent of the U.S. Senate, >>appoint the justices. But once the justices are approved by the Senate they >>can and do act independently and dictatorially. SC Justices sit in office >>for life. Theoretically they can be impeached. But how many justices in your >>lifetime have been impeached? >> >> >>In my lifetime it is exactly ZERO. In your lifetime too, probably. >> >> >>That's because like all dictators, the Supreme Court justices have enablers >>in the Legislative as well as in the Executive branches. >> >> >>The solution is to limit the terms of justices. Force them to retire when >>they hit 70, which is the case with Philippine SC justices. >> >> >>This way, justices must face the American public and defend their past >>decisions once they leave office. Today, justices leave the office in >>horizontal positions or in wheel chairs, burdened by dementia. >> >> >>And by the way, there are far fewer Democratic billionaires, so don't even go >>there. >> >> >>C >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:31 AM, 'Aquilino Alcantara' via Center for Good >>Governance <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>so how much does the billionaires on the other side contribute? ... >>> >>> >>>who puts those judges in the supreme court? ... the president vetted by >>>congress ... so? ... whats the beef? ... >>> >>> >>> From: "Cesar Lumba [email protected] [DLSHS59]" <[email protected]> >>>To: World-Wide Fil Alliance <[email protected]>; >>>"[email protected]" <[email protected]>; CFGG Assoc. *CFGG CFGG >>><[email protected]>; 62ndforum >>><[email protected]>; Archersnook <[email protected]>; >>>Moonglow <[email protected]>; >>>"[email protected]" >>><[email protected]> >>>Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:37 AM >>>Subject: [DLSHS59] 21st Century Feudalism >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>The Las Vegas Sun published one of my letters again. More than 80% of my >>>letters are published by the Sun. >>> >>> >>>LETTER TO THE EDITOR: >>>This is 21st-century feudalism >>>By Cesar Lumba, Las Vegas >>>Monday, Nov. 10, 2014 | 9:24 a.m. >>>View more of the Sun's opinion section >>> * Editorials - the Sun's viewpoint >>> * Columnists - local and syndicated writers >>> * Letters to the editor - readers' views >>> * Write a letter to the editor >>>The Supreme Court says money in politics is free speech. That being the >>>case, the Koch brothers, having given an estimated $200 million to their >>>political causes this election cycle, have equaled the voices of at least 2 >>>million Americans. >>>Sound like a feudal system with a twist? You’re darned right. >>>Grass-roots Democrats must scrape the bottom of the barrel to come up with >>>the estimated average $100 they contribute to the Democratic campaigns. But >>>people like the Koches and the unnamed contributors who funnel their dark >>>monies through Karl Rove have already bought and delivered the elections for >>>the Republicans. >>>This is like the Revenge of the Billionaires. There’s no stopping them. >>>Thanks to our reactionary Supreme Court, the voices of the country’s handful >>>of ultra-conservative, tax-hating and tax-avoiding billionaires are worth a >>>whole lot more than the voices of as many as 50 million American voters. >>>These billionaire American aristocrats don’t care about issues like the >>>living wage, equal pay for equal work, immigration reform, shoring up the >>>middle class, the economy, health care for all, etc. They know today’s >>>elections are not about issues. Today’s elections are about who can write >>>the most million-dollar checks. >>>Shame on the Supreme Court for its Citizens United decision. >>>And the Supreme Court promises more of the same in the future. In our system >>>of checks and balances, no one checks the Supreme Court. >>>With the executive and the legislative branches canceling each other out, >>>the Supreme Court reigns as the modern-day American dictator. >>>Share on email >>>Share on facebookShare on twitterShare on google_plusone_shareMore Sharing >>>Services0 >>> >>> >>>__._,_.___ >>> Posted by: Cesar Lumba <[email protected]> >>>Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New >>>Topic • Messages in this topic (1) >>>Visit Your Group >>> >>>• Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use >>> >>>. >>> >>>__,_._,___ >>> >>> -- >>>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>"Center for Good Governance" group. >>>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>email to [email protected]. >>>To post to this group, send email to >>>[email protected]. >>>Visit this group at >>>http://groups.google.com/group/center-for-good-governance. >>>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Center for Good Governance" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>email to [email protected]. >>To post to this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >>Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/center-for-good-governance. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >>-- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Center for Good Governance" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>email to [email protected]. >>To post to this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >>Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/center-for-good-governance. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"Center for Good Governance" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >email to [email protected]. >To post to this group, send email to >[email protected]. >Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/center-for-good-governance. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"Center for Good Governance" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >email to [email protected]. >To post to this group, send email to >[email protected]. >Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/center-for-good-governance. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Center for Good Governance" group. 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