Ack. It wants to be in same Volume Group. I want to keep my VGs 
segregated to PVs segregrated to distinct harddrives (or devmapped raid1s).

But it "almost" worked. :)

Ben M. wrote:
> Oops, I pasted in the wrong notes of what I was sketching out... very 
> sorry about that confusion. Totally botched up.
> 
> My question about your method was that a pvmove could be done to a 
> snapshot, which I am going to answer myself by trying it right now. I 
> thought that snapshot were inexorably connected to the source.
> 
> If there is a problem I am sure I will see the errors. heh.
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher G. Stach II wrote:
>> ----- "Ben M." <cen...@rivint.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does this appear to be a sound procedure? I have one inline question.
>> I read your version of the procedure and it looks like you want to skip the 
>> pvmove. That's fine, but it means more downtime (an unreliable estimate is 
>> one minuted per GB). In that case, you don't even need the snapshot. You 
>> won't need a point in time copy if you are copying from a stable source.
>>
>>> 1. Shutdown domU source (source lvname = win2k8-source) which is never
>>> file mounted in Xen dom0, just "lvm'd".
>> Yeah, just turning off the guest and making sure it doesn't have the ``o'' 
>> flag set in the ``lvs'' output is enough. I hope that nothing else had it 
>> open (for writing) while your guest was running. :)
>>
>>> 2. snapshot source win2k8-source to win2k8-snapshot
>>> [How long do I wait before bringing DomU source back up? Is there in 
>>> indication when it is done? It is approx. 50gig]
>> A few milliseconds. It will return almost immediately.
>>
>>> 3. Bring up domU (Is this necessary if seeking accurate data state, 
>>> would rather keep offline on a weekend dayrather than lose data
>>> entries.)
>> The snapshot won't change. It's not necessary if you don't need your guest 
>> to be up. In fact, you can skip the whole snapshot bit if you don't care 
>> about downtime for your guest. Just dd from win2k8-source.
>>
>> You can't perform this step if you aren't going to use pvmove. Your source 
>> will change and your snapshot will be out of date. You would lose all of 
>> your changes between the snapshot and when you reboot the guest the second 
>> time.
>>
>>> 4. Create identical lv extent space (win3k8-target) on target pv/vg
>> Yes, but win2k8-target. :) Since you are copying to a new VG, you can just 
>> keep the LV name the same.
>>
>>> 5. dd if=/dev/vgsnapshotsource/win2k8-snapshot 
>>> of=/dev/vgtarget/win2k8-target
>> Yes, but you can specify a larger block size and it will take less time. I 
>> personally just default to using bs=1048576 for most things, even if it's 
>> not ideal.
>>
>>> 6. Shutdown DomU, change xen win2k8-source domU conf file phy:
>>> reference to win2k8-target
>> Nope. Keep it the same. You don't want to run from the snapshot or the 
>> backup copy, unless you're skipping the pvmove. If you are, you want to 
>> change the VG and/or LV name to the non-backup copy.
>>
>>> 6a. Drop snapshot, rename source lv to win2k8-old
>> If you were going with pvmove, you would perform that after this step.
>>
>>> 7. Start "new" domU.
>>> 8. test extensively, if works, run for few a day or two. Keep *-old as
>>> fallback for a week or so. Then move to an archive using dd.
>> So, we have two possible procedures intermingled here. The major differences 
>> are Procedure A (lots of downtime) and Procedure B (minimal downtime).
>>
>> Procedure A
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>> 1. Create target LV with geometry identical to source LV geometry
>> 2. Stop guest.
>> 3. dd
>> 4. Modify guest configuration to point to target LV
>> 5. Start guest
>>
>> This is the procedure to use if simplicity is desired. As a perk, your 
>> source LV becomes your backup.
>>
>> Procedure B
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>> 1. Create backup LV with geometry identical to source LV geometry
>> 2. Stop guest.
>> 3. Create snapshot of source LV
>> 4. Start guest
>> 5. dd from snapshot of source LV to backup LV
>> 6. Drop snapshot of source LV
>> 7. vgextend source VG with additional PV
>> 7. pvmove source LV to additional PV
>> (opt) 8. vgsplit [source VG into additional VG with additional PV]
>> (opt) 9. Modify guest configuration [to point to source LV on additional VG]
>>
>> Procedure B can be different for Linux guests in that, depending upon your 
>> guest filesystem choices (ext3 journal, in particular) and site specific 
>> caching issues, step 2 could be "Pause guest" and step 4 would then be 
>> "Resume guest".
>>
>> Depending upon how you handle your PVs and VGs in the optional 8 and 9 
>> steps, you may need to shut down your guest(s). Your desire to have one VG 
>> per PV will probably necessitate that being done eventually.
>>
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