Many years ago I purchased a Dell Inspiron direct from Dell and had very similar issues, so it is not just WinBloze 8, it is that the systems are intentionally set up to make it difficult. Took me about 3 hours just to get to the BIOS because the window of time was less than 1 second to hit the right key combo.

The last time I purchased a laptop was from Emperor Linux in Atlanta, GA.

http://www.emperorlinux.com/

I purchased a Lenovo W500 from them a few years ago with my favorite flavor of Linux already installed. They have very good support and the owners are very helpful. They also have a very large selection of models and you can choose your own hardware configuration.

I have long since installed more recent versions of Linux, including Fedora 20. The best thing about purchasing from them is that they have tested and configured each computer before they ship them.

It is a few hundred $$ more expensive than purchasing from a local big box store. I imagine I would have spent many hours researching and testing before I purchased, and then some additional time getting Linux installed and running on anything I purchased. As a business owner of a Linux consulting and training company, I consider my time worth at least $100 per hour which is my basic hourly charge when consulting. So figure that purchasing from Emperor saved me way more than the additional cost I paid to them. Plus I did not have to pay the M$ tax.

I have also helped customers with recent Acers that seem to work well with 
Linux.

I hope this helps.


On 10/02/2014 12:57 AM, Frank Cox wrote:
Today I found myself in need of a laptop to run Centos on.  And that simple 
statement led to an all-day odyssey.

My original plan was to purchase a laptop and install Centos 6 on it.  I went 
to Staples and tried booting it on every model of laptop that they had in the 
store.  They all come with Windows 8 installed, and for the edification of 
anyone who doesn't know this (I didn't until today) you have to conduct a real 
song and dance to get to the bios settings on one of those things:

boot windows
move mouse pointer to the top right corner of the screen
move down to setting menu (gear) that shows up
click on power off icon
Hold shift key and left-click on "restart"
it goes to the troubleshooting screen
click on advanced troubleshooting
click on "change uefi settings"
now we get to the bios
set secure boot off
set legacy boot priority

And then you can boot from a USB flash drive.  *whew*  (It's easy to put it 
back afterward, just go into the bios and tell it set to defaults, save and 
exit.)

Anyway, I tried booting a Centos 6 Live CD image on a usb flash drive on every 
single model of laptop they had in stock and no joy on any of them -- they 
either hung altogether, started booting and hung at some point along the way, 
started a continuous cycle of start booting, reset, start booting again, or 
kernel panicked.  Every last one.

I then tried a Centos 7 Live CD image on another usb flash drive and then the 
third machine that I tried it on (Lenovo Ideapad S400 Touch) worked.  So I 
bought that one and have now wiped Windows off of its hard drive and installed 
Centos 7 so it now looks and acts like a real computer.

I never would have thought that it would take all bloody day to purchase one 
laptop.  (And I'm going to be having nightmares about that Windows Boot Manager 
thing.)

Since it has now become amazingly difficult to get a laptop if you're not 
planning to use Windows, at least around here, I'm wondering what the rest of 
you fine folks do when it comes to purchasing a laptop?  Next time this comes 
up, I'd rather not have to spend all day on something that used to take fifteen 
minutes.


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