Hi Johan,

> His point in short: passwords are not all that important any more.
> All virus spreading and hacking these days is done by sending malicous mails 
> and by visiting malicious sites.

<polemical-mode>If your brother in law doesn't see that the virus argument 
doesn't apply to the question of whether or not to choose strong passwords 
maybe he shouldn't be a software developer in the first place.</polemical-mode>

Strong passwords don't protect against viruses, phishing etc. pp., that is 
true. But having weak passwords opens a plethora of other attack vectors beside 
that, and as for instance the iTunes hack shows there *are* real-world 
scenarios where passwords are attacked successfully. Just put an ssh server on 
a public IP and wait for a day, and you'll see how many.

Regarding the original issue, I don't see where requiring users to enter 
strong(ish) passwords in the GUI installer at installation time could do any 
harm except a minor inconvenience for some people. Kickstart is not affected, 
so automated installs won't break, and on the other hand the use of weak 
passwords may be reduced a bit by the change. I'm all for it.

Cheers,

  Peter.

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