On 05/24/2017 11:37 AM, Tate Belden wrote:
Warren, one slight correction on an other wise nicely written bit of info:
The time transmitted from WWV is not Mountain Time. Even though the WWV
transmitter farm is located in the Mountain time zone, the signals are
transmitted as "Coordinated Universal time", UTC, or 'Zulu' time.
Here, you can listen to a recording made at the transmitter site for the
5Mhz signal:
https://ia802605.us.archive.org/24/items/WWV5MHz/WWV-5MHz.MP3
I remember listening to this on a shortwave radio back around '62...
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Warren Young <war...@etr-usa.com> wrote:
On May 24, 2017, at 7:53 AM, Chris Olson <chris_e_ol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
One of our STEM interns recently observed that there are
inexpensive clocks that sync via radio to standard time
services.
There are two major types:
1. WWVB and its equivalents in other countries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWVB
2. GPS clocks.
WWVB has several problems:
a. It’s transmitting from a fixed location in a time zone you probably
aren’t in — US Mountain — being the least populous of the lower 48’s four
time zones. You therefore have to configure time zone offset and DST
rules, which means additional software if you want it to track changes to
these things. There were 10 batches of such changes last year!
https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz-announce/2016-November/thread.html
b. It’s a weak signal. Unless you’ve got a big antenna or are positioning
the receiving device near a window, you probably can’t receive the WWVB
signal reliably.
c. Computers have major RFI shielding problems, which is why they’re
typically placed in metal boxes. (Even plastic-cased laptops have metal
boxes inside.) That means you have to have an external antenna even in the
best case. Now apply what you know about Wifi reliability to the problem
of receiving a signal from a different *time zone*.
I happen to be in the Mountain time zone, and it doesn’t take too much to
shield our WWVB clocks from the signal. I can only imagine how much easier
it is out on the coasts.
GPS time is a much better solution, but it’s power-hungry, as you probably
know from running GPS on your smartphone. This rules it out for laptops.
The GPS transmitters probably have a higher received signal strength than
WWVB, but cinderblock walls and grids of 42U equipment racks block the GPS
signal quite well. This is why data centers with such clocks generally
have to run an antenna to the outside for their clock. That makes it far
more expensive than just connecting to an upstream NTP server.
When I was a student, such questions would have earned me
extra homework assignments.
So do I get an “A”? :)
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